Well his mere presence caused suffering to those around him, he could mentally enslave others to his will and did so to the 1,000 passengers aboard his ship, he can render himself incorporeal within the blink of an eye, and use TK in this form, a mere expression of his anger caused his 600 meter dreadnought to shake, which he was capable of holding together in the aftermath of an explosion that seemingly obliterated it.
Some of these feats are feasible for Vader, but most of them are beyond him are far as I'm concerned, he's certainly never been seen accomplishing any of them.
For those reasons I say + Vader tier. But I'm not confident he has enough showings to put him above or on the same level as the likes of Revan or Krayt. Despite that though a lot of people put him below FE Malgus, and worse.(please log in to view the image)
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I guess that's dependent on how you classify fodder.
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I think the point of this is misunderstood. I don't think Filoni was saying it's all downhill from Rebels, but rather that his edge dulled after learning of Luke's existence.
I put FE Malgus above Jadus, but I have both of them alongside Yoda in Tier 8 (Tier 9 being Bane, Revan, Arcann, Luke and Palpatine, and tier 10 Valkorion).
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They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."
It's certainly relative but I wouldn't put him beneath the likes of DS Bastila or even Ventress as others have.
I certainly don't assume that because he's got so many injuries, he's a shit duelist.Search your feelings. You know it to be true.I understand the point, and I disagree.Anyone being Anakin with his powers fully realised, not the Ones.
Understand that Anakin is the Chosen One, he is an immense conduit for the Force that can be done wonders with if properly tapped into.
Even if the Son was empowering him (though personally I think he just helped him fully realise his powers as his presence is seldom mentioned) he'd still surpass anything the Son, or any of the Ones, are capable of alone.
Did you miss the part where, simply by tapping into the Mortis nexus, Anakin stomped the Son and Daughter simultaneously? He's obviously far more potent a conduit, and far stronger a Force user when given a boost.
Regardless that's besides the point, 1 + 1 equals 2, funnily enough. The Son + the power of Anakin is going to be stronger than the Son alone.
@Skillz, yes, though he would lose 10/10.
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