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Perhaps Because the latter failed to defeat either of the Jedi.


Vader didn't defeat Ahsoka, he had to abuse his power so now Kanan > Maul = Vader. That the Jedi group couldn't press any advantage over the inquisitors while Maul was throwing them around like nothing.

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Maul already stated his inferiority to Vader. FPJ also confirmed that stating how Filoni is very protective of Vader.

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Maul already stated his inferiority to Vader. FPJ also confirmed that stating how Filoni is very protective of Vader.


Neglecting most of my comment... Anyway Maul admitted inferiority to keep the Jedi team there, if he really needer them to defeat Vader then he wouldn't have tried to kill them. Filoni's protective of Vader but that hardly means anything, that he's actual reluctant to show a Vader vs Maul because he can't put Vader in a bad daylight is actually a good feat for Maul.

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No Maul was being truthful when he said he can't defeat Vader.

FPJ confirmed that. Filoni (and Disney) are very protective of Vader's Power and Presence. They would never have Vader defeated by Kanan, Oneness or not.

And Vader was beating Ahsoka.

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No Maul was being truthful when he said he can't defeat Vader.

FPJ confirmed that. Filoni (and Disney) are very protective of Vader's Power and Presence. They would never have Vader defeated by Kanan, Oneness or not.

And Vader was beating Ahsoka.


Maul needed the Jedi team to defeat Vader (and so suppossedly admitting inferiority) yet he tries to kill the Jedi before facing Vader....Yeah Maul really is that dumb.

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Maul needed the Jedi team to defeat Vader (and so suppossedly admitting inferiority) yet he tries to kill the Jedi before facing Vader....Yeah Maul really is that dumb.



There probably a reason he's got his eye on Ezra. Train him and then take on Vader together.

Maul might have been lying about teaming up with the Jedi, but he wasn't lying about his inferiority to Vader. FPJ confirmed that.

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There probably a reason he's got his eye on Ezra. Train him and then take on Vader together.

Maul might have been lying about teaming up with the Jedi, but he wasn't lying about his inferiority to Vader. FPJ confirmed that.


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There probably a reason he's got his eye on Ezra. Train him and then take on Vader together.

Maul might have been lying about teaming up with the Jedi, but he wasn't lying about his inferiority to Vader. FPJ confirmed that.


Maul was completely aware that Vader was present on Malachor and FPJ has perhaps extra information about Kanan but his opinion over Vader is well an opinion.

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Maul was completely aware that Vader was present on Malachor and FPJ has perhaps extra information about Kanan but his opinion over Vader is well an opinion.



The extra information FPJ has on Rebels isn't limited to Kanan.

In fact when he talked about Kanan besting Maul that sounded more like an opinion. But when it came to Maul and Vader the fact that he specifically mentioned Filoni's feelings about it implied more factual information.

That line was put in there on purpose. It's preparing Maul fans for the future. He's obviously above Kanan and Ezra, but will ultimately be no match for Vader.

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The extra information FPJ has on Rebels isn't limited to Kanan.

In fact when he talked about Kanan besting Maul that sounded more like an opinion. But when it came to Maul and Vader the fact that he specifically mentioned Filoni's feelings about it implied more factual information.

That line was put in there on purpose. It's preparing Maul fans for the future. He's obviously above Kanan and Ezra, but will ultimately be no match for Vader.


Again neglecting a part of my comment. FPJ's opinion om his own character, someone he has to comoletely understand and has some input in the development of this character, is less objective then his opinion over Vader, a character where he has barely interacted with....of course. That Filoni is protective over Vader, Disney's money machine, is only logical but doesn't imply that Vader is solidly ahead of Maul.

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Again neglecting a part of my comment. FPJ's opinion om his own character, someone he has to comoletely understand and has some input in the development of this character, is less objective then his opinion over Vader, a character where he has barely interacted with....of course. That Filoni is protective over Vader, Disney's money machine, is only logical but doesn't imply that Vader is solidly ahead of Maul.



Not sure what I've neglected this time.

FPJ playing Kanan doesn't automatically make anything he says about him Canon. Sure he has insight into the character from the creators, but it's naive to think that's the Only insight he has from his conversations with the Rebels creators.

And fact is with the Kanan beating Maul thing he made it clear that's just "how he" sees it. With Vader being above Maul though he basically said it as fact citing his source.

And It's not just that they're protective over Vader. They had Maul outright admit it. Maul could have said to the Jedi "I can not defeat the Sith alone," or "I can not defeat the Empire alone.." But he specifically said "I can not defeat Vader alone," and it was a reasoning that made sense to the Jedi for why Maul might want/need to team up with them.

Little did they know that he didn't really need them because his plan was to use the WMD on the Sith Temple against Vader, Palpatine and the Empire. Plus of course there was his long term plan to train Ezra as his apprentice.

They were just warning you dude. That when the Vader/ Maul fight finally comes, don't expect Maul to win, because he won't. It's upto you if you want to believe it or not, just don't be all shocked when that happens.

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No but Filoni clearly does.
You clearly weren't paying attention to the episode.


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Ahsoka level though a bit lower as of rebels per feloni

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Maul sucks.

He got his ass kicked by TPM Kenobi, was forced to flee from TCW Kenobi despite having help from his brother, got kicked by a dog, got kicked by Ezra, got stomped by a blind Kanan, got three shotted by old Ben Kenobi.

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Probably TCW Ahsoka level at his absolute peak


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Probably TCW Ahsoka level at his absolute peak


Nope. He got trapped by Ahsoka in her own Novel.

TCW Ahsoka > Any Maul.

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Below people like Vader and Count Dooku, above the B-team and people like Qui-Gon, right around TCW Obi-Wan level.

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Dooku level, if not above.
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Ben Kenobi level.


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Rebels/Prime Ashoka level. DD/Prime Vos level. ROTS Kenobi level.

Probably not quite as powerful as Count Dooku, but should be a good match for him in combat as well, once taking all stylistic factors into account- see Vos/Savage/S4Anakin vs Dooku for comparative reasons.

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