Well, Rogue One is out now and it was pretty good. Now the wait begins for episode 8. Thought I'd make this thread for the upcoming Star Wars movie, including thoughts, theories, and general discussion. We've got a little under a year to go!
Now this hardly makes him a Prequelist starting out with: "Devil's advocate" and using the words "kids story", but it's still far and beyond any kind of positive acknowledgment JJ would have ever given the Prequels when he was making Ep.7, and nice to see Rian can appreciate the good in those movies and probably accept them as an important part of the Canon while making his contribution to the franchise.
I want Episode VIII to go a different direction and provide something new to the series. TFA and R1 both hung onto the nostalgia factor a tremendous deal. Can't say I didn't enjoy that tremendously, but I want some growth.
I wonder how Carrie Fisher's passing will affect Episode VIII and IX.
I hope they do away with the oldies, except maybe for Luke. After all, this trilogy is about the new generation. Not the old. I agree with Rexxxx, we've had enough callback and old characters, for five movies in a row now... Time for a new age for Star Wars,.
Nevertheless, Fisher's demise is a great loss. Guess I will buy her new book now...
Last edited by queeq on Dec 28th, 2016 at 08:38 AM
I like the nostalgia as long as they do something different, and the main characters are new characters. Then when someone like Vader or Tarkin shows up it's just a bonus nostalgic gift. Which is why I really enjoyed R1 and the first season of Rebels.
As for Carrie, Ep.8 was already finished filming. If Leia survived that film, then I'm sure they can just write her off in a respectful way. She didn't actually have a particularly large role in Ep.7.
I've had enough of the nostalgia. By now it makes the SW universe very small.
And Leia kinda serves the purpose of OB1 in the second half of ANH: there's nothing really for her to do. So I think with TFA and Episode VIII we have a very respectful goodbye to the great Carrie Fisher... She deserves it.
Well, yeah.... and no. The story can be small... in fact SHOULD be small. Doesn't mean the world they live in should be small.
It was thinking about these (by now) endless references to the OT. We had them in the PT, we had them in TFA and now in R1. In the OT - in every movie we did not only see new worlds/planets, but we also ran into new characters (that were more than just a face and a suit) and into new creatures and new situations.
Basically from TPM we run into new worlds, new creatures, but mosltly the same people. So new make-up, no really new content.
Major new characters (TFA excluded though):
- Padme Amidala - boring, flat
- Maul - looks great, but no more
- Neimodians - meh
- QGJ - boring, emotionless guy with dubious morals
- Mace Windu - boring
- Ki Adi Mundi - boring
- Jango Fett - not really a new character, he's Boba Fett
- Dex Dexter, let's skip that
- Dooku - interesting, but heavily underused
- most of the R1 cast: bland, boring, flat, irrelevant (Saw Gerrara), uninteresting plus they all die but we didn't care very much anyway.
In the OT we had really great additions, new characters with development:
- Lando Calrissian
- even the Imperial commanders were interesting (Ozzel, Piett, Needa)
- Jabba the Hutt
- Ewoks - childish but had more to them than Neimodians IMHO
TFA is the only non-OT movie that had some interesting characters again. It lacked on story, but hopefully that will come in the next two. If it's all gonna be like R1, then I am losing hope in my beloved franchise.
That is why I am saying: drop the nostalgia act, come up with something new. TFA certainly started something new:
- Kylo Ren
That's the characters that they should follow, and add some new ones! New characters, new experiences. Not just new designs.