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Jaggarath
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Sam Witwer on Obi-Wan Kenobi

"What's awesome about Obi-Wan, and it's consistent through the Clone Wars, they always say 'he's one of the best, but he's not the best - he's not the best of the best. He's not the best swordsman. He's not the best pilot. But he's really good. But he has these A-game moments.' Well, we just saw an A-game moment (Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace). There's another one, for example, in the Clone Wars, he loses his first fight to Darth Maul pretty hardcore. He does not even hold a candle to Darth Maul when him and Ventress fight Savage and Maul. He loses. But the next time he fights, he's up against Savage and Maul, and his Jedi partner had been killed - Adi Gallia had just been killed - and just like Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan then has his A-game moment and stands up to Darth Maul and Savage and drives them off. I like that the character elements are consistent about what activates these people, about when they are at their best and when they are not."


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thumb up TCW Kenobi at his best is better than Maul as a duelist.

A menatally and physically wrecked Kenobi not at his best and unabalnced with dun moch is circumstantially inferior to maul as a duelist

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So nothing we didn't already know.


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Jaggarath
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thumb up TCW Kenobi at his best is better than Maul as a duelist.

A menatally and physically wrecked Kenobi not at his best and unabalnced with dun moch is circumstantially inferior to maul as a duelist

Not really what Sam's getting at, kek.

Regardless, one can just point to Maul's "A-game" moment against Sidious at the end of Lawless.

Kenobi's not replicating that - at least not in TCW.

Didn't really intend this thread to get into Maul v Kenobi though. Just thought the quote was neat.


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Kenobi's better than maul as a duelist as of tcw as their fights show, so nah, he can replicate getting wrecked by sids just fine

And kenobi's a game moment on florrum has already been confirmed by feloni not to have been externally based
"was kenobi empowered by galia's death"
"nah:

Maul's a game moment? Not so much.

Regardless

The "he's one of the best" is a neat accolade anyway. It's surprising that kenobi, someone who's among the most skille din the mythos is kinda lacking in statements along the lines of, "One of the most skilled swordsman in the order's history" or stuff like that.

Not that voice actor accolades should be given much weight("Ahsoka is the 3d or 4th most skilled jedi in canon")

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So nothing we didn't already know.


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Witwer's basically saying Obi-Wan can be extremely good at specific moments like Jinn or Galli's death but for the rest Maul's 'wrecking' him? Lol nice.


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nice, nucanon for my debates.


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Filoni thinks differently on some points here

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Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Witwer's basically saying Obi-Wan can be extremely good at specific moments like Jinn or Galli's death but for the rest Maul's 'wrecking' him? Lol nice.

Maul wrecking him when he's dircumsta˝tially wrecked physically and mentally after dun moch is cool. Kenobi wrecking maul taking him. Out twice in 1 minute when both are hindered is better

And the whole, amp argument's been beyond debunked courtesy of feloni himslef(the dude who it was based in anyway). Florrum wasn't beyond kenobi's normal abilities.

Kenobi's a better duelist than maul his, even as of TCW

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Originally posted by Greysentinel365
Filoni thinks differently on some points here

Nah voice actor opinions>canonical statements/authority here

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Maul went toe-to-toe with Sidious for like thirty-seconds. erm


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When enraged, yea.

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After engaging in a lengthy fight beforehand. sad


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One where sids was toying with him, yea

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Nice to hear Witwer doing some damage control. Fixing some of Filoni's sins.



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A menatally and physically wrecked Kenobi not at his best and unabalnced with dun moch is circumstantially inferior to maul



That's funny, I was under the impression it was Maul who was mentally and physically wrecked post TPM.

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Also worth noting Filoni has heavily implied that Maul's pre-Mandalorian legs hindered his combat abilities since his ability to perform acrobatics were limited.


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Nice to hear Witwer doing some damage control. Fixing some of Filoni's sins.





That's funny, I was under the impression it was Maul who was mentally and physically wrecked post TPM.

1. Witwer doesn't have the authority to damage control here not that he's actually said anything that's contradictory

2. Yea, as a character. That"s not circumstantial. Witwer himself has said that of tcw maul.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Also worth noting Filoni has heavily implied that Maul's pre-Mandalorian legs hindered his combat abilities since his ability to perform acrobatics were limited.

Quote?

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Jaggarath
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJUWUdw-Yis

Witwer has also stated that Dave told him that Lucas told him that if characters don't use the Force for long periods of time, their connection to the Force will weaken and eventually disappear.

Witwer referenced this as a potential reason why Kenobi is "weak" in ANH. Thus, it seems apparent that early TCW Maul and Rebels Maul isn't their prime also - not that that wasn't obvious anyway.


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