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Darth Thor
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thanks. Yeah Mace and Ani are interchangeable for me as we don't know wether or not he'd whoop Anakin in a fair fight cuz he was blindsided after all



True yeah. I place Ani on top, but have no real issue with those placing Mace on top given his fight with Sidious.

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Would you really place Kenobi within your top 5?


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^ Well he's clearly above Darth Maul, and seems to be a near equal to Vader. So I don't see why not. Should at least be top 10 though.

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^ Well he's clearly above Darth Maul, and seems to be a near equal to Vader. So I don't see why not.


How the hell is Kenobi clearly above Prime Maul?


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^ Well he's clearly above Darth Maul, and seems to be a near equal to Vader. So I don't see why not. Should at least be top 10 though.


Oh, you're referring to ANH Kenobi. Hmmmm. While I don't entirely agree, that's not an unreasonable stance. Carry on.


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How the hell is Kenobi clearly above Prime Maul?


Even Rebels Maul matched Ahsoka who did decent against Vader.

Ben was clearly above Rebels Maul/Ahsoka level, and if we add that to the ANH fight, then it's clear he seems to be only a little under Vader.

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Oh, you're referring to ANH Kenobi. Hmmmm. While I don't entirely agree, that's not an unreasonable stance. Carry on.



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Even Rebels Maul matched Ahsoka who did decent against Vader.

Ben was clearly above Rebels Maul/Ahsoka level, and if we add that to the ANH fight, then it's clear he seems to be only a little under Vader.


Rebels Maul is a shadow of his former self. Ahsoka did pretty bad against Rebels Vader whose feats are nothing compared to his prime versions. Ben Kenobi being well above SWR Maul/SWR Ahsoka doesn't mean he's well above Prime Maul, who is, by feats, much better than his SWR version.

Ben Kenobi was slightly below ANH Vader, but ANH Vader and Maul are pretty close. And this was only a saber fight- in which I agree Kenobi has a slight edge over Maul, but Maul has a strong physical edge and a Force edge.

Ben Kenobi could be above Prime Maul, but it's by a slight margin at best. I'd actually say Prime Maul is just slightly above Ben Kenobi- he has physical and Force edge, whereas Kenobi has the saber edge.


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Rebels Maul is a shadow of his former self. Ahsoka did pretty bad against Rebels Vader whose feats are nothing compared to his prime versions. Ben Kenobi being well above SWR Maul/SWR Ahsoka doesn't mean he's well above Prime Maul, who is, by feats, much better than his SWR version.

Ben Kenobi was slightly below ANH Vader, but ANH Vader and Maul are pretty close. And this was only a saber fight- in which I agree Kenobi has a slight edge over Maul, but Maul has a strong physical edge and a Force edge.

Ben Kenobi could be above Prime Maul, but it's by a slight margin at best. I'd actually say Prime Maul is just slightly above Ben Kenobi- he has physical and Force edge, whereas Kenobi has the saber edge.



I didn't mention "Prime" Maul anywhere, which is a subjective Peak anyhow. I was power scaling off Rebels Maul/Ahsoka and ANH Vader.

You seem to jump all over people who mention any limitations on Maul, even when they are Maul supporters like myself.

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I didn't mention "Prime" Maul anywhere, which is a subjective Peak anyhow. I was power scaling off Rebels Maul/Ahsoka and ANH Vader.

You seem to jump all over people who mention any limitations on Maul, even when they are Maul supporters like myself.


I just disagreed with Kenobi being clearly above Maul, so I just asked why you thought that way.

And yeah, I sometimes tend to do something similar to what you said- it's just that I got somewhat used to it on CV with the Maul lowballing. I don't "jump all over them", just ask why they think that way- to provide proof.


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^ Well he's clearly above Darth Maul, and seems to be a near equal to Vader. So I don't see why not. Should at least be top 10 though.


Being above Maul isn't enough to put Kenobi up to par with Luke, Yoda, Anakin, Revan, Windu, Jacen, etc.

He may well be top 10, though.


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See, Vader is just as good as or even better than RotS Anakin. Therefore Obi-Wan could probably challenge Sidious.

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In canon. Fagit.


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Because any other Obi-Wan is clearly above Maul?

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You got me there.


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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Even Rebels Maul matched Ahsoka who did decent against Vader.

Ben was clearly above Rebels Maul/Ahsoka level, and if we add that to the ANH fight, then it's clear he seems to be only a little under Vader.

Maul roughly matched Ahsoka on a ds nexus, yeah. But between getting sent flailing backwards and being driven back, assuming that they were perfectly equal on said nexus is unsubstantiated.

While holistically we can assume Kenobi is above ahsoka, the unfavorable circumstances Ahsoka fought with were not present for Kenobi. Given how well Ahsoka did against Vader, we should assume she's close to Kenobi.

That being said, Maul's performance against Ahsoka wasn't far off from Vader's own performance against her on the same nexus. Logically, they should be in the same general range which remains extremely impressive given what a monster Vader is as of rebels. His weaker incarnations have pulled freighters out of the sky, disintegrated lileks who have lightsaber resistant armor, and at his peak we seem him withstanding an explosion potent enough to dissolve ships.

When we apply logic, Rebels Maul remains a beast, regardless of where you may hold him in comparison with his prior incarnations.

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Maul roughly matched Ahsoka on a ds nexus, yeah. But between getting sent flailing backwards and being driven back, assuming that they were perfectly equal on said nexus is unsubstantiated.




I've already debunked this.

No proof of a dark side specific combat related amp, especially given Kanan's LS amp.

And no she wasn't driving Maul back. A couple of steps against a one handed Maul doesn't mean squat Lol

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^ Not to mention the location of the fight will have no effect when it comes to scaling Maul against Vader, given they both fought Ashoka on the same Sith temple.

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Top 10:

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Master Yoda
3. Anakin Skywalker
4. Mace Windu/Revan Reborn
5. Mace Windu/Revan Reborn
6. Jacen Solo
7. Outlander (HoT)
8-10. Some combination of Vodo, Odan, ANH Kenobi, Thon, Barsen'thor, Sunrider, Saba, Cade, Kyp, and probably Dooku as well. Probably missing some people.


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Bar the special case of Anakin, I'm not including folks who ended up as darksiders. I'm also not sure where to Place Mara, Katarn, and other njo jedi:
1. Luke
2. Jaina :>
3. Yoda
4. Mace
5. Jedi Anakin
6. Kyp :>
7. The Outlander
8. Seba
9. Arcann
10. Cade Skywalker
11. ANH Kenobi
12. Xesh
13. Satele
14. Senya
15. Vodo

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