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leonidas
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huh? if a force can move a planet that force>planetary inertia already. so powering through THAT would obviously be a feat greater than moving the planet....

i know where you're going though and narration can be pretty damn meaningless in comics.


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huh? if a force can move a planet that force>planetary inertia already. so powering through THAT would obviously be a feat greater than moving the planet....

i know where you're going though and narration can be pretty damn meaningless in comics.


I'm just asking. Wasn't going to mention anything else, especially anything that isn't relevant to this thread. Thanks for the answer though.


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People saying than destroying a planet is greater than moving a planet have no idea in the forces that it requires to move a planet.

This is why trains are so hard to stop with out destroying them.

You can destroy a train and destroy it pretty easily, but to stop it with out destroying it , that is where it becomes a challenge.

The force required to destroy a planet is a lot less than the force required to move it from it's orbital trench and a lot less to move them at FTL as the closer you get to FTL it will be harder and harder to move.


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Oh and trying to dismiss RL rules to quantify a sci fi feat it is ridiculous.

You need an anchor to quantify it. In this case RL rules.

If an object weights 200 lbs in rl it will weight 200 lbs in cl.

Plain and simple. I will think common sense or logic will be used in here. Regardless of the outcome.


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Anyway. An interesting topic all the time.


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Oh and trying to dismiss RL rules to quantify a sci fi feat it is ridiculous.


that's gotta be the first time i've ever heard anyone CONDONE using RL science to defend a comic world.....

couldn't disagree strongly enough with that take. the rules of physics are constantly broken in the world of comics so we don't really get to pick and choose which ones we should or shouldn't follow. that's why most will always caution, rightly, AGAINST that very thing.

reaching light speed=impossible by RL standards. exceeding it is basically incomprehensible. yet you advocate FOLLOWING those same rules? like i said--in the RW sure, moving a planet>destroying one. we're not talk real world, we're talking about a world where people routinely fly ftl, and hold universes apart, where thought>light speed and any other number of impossible things happen all the time. to suggest we play by the same rules makes no sense, but, to each their own i guess. /shrug


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Where does it say in OP we are limited to comic feats?

I mean,I know it's a comic forum, but I find moving a planet more impressive, because I have seen the calcs.

Now, if we are to argue it's more impressive to bust a planet due to the rarity of the feat or something, or to use some other metric, that's fine.

But by using the metric of energy needed, then we kinda have to fall back on RL physics.

Besides, leo, the calcs I posted had NOTHING to do with lightspeed anymore.

It was just moving the Earth out of its orbit,at42km/hr. No, no decimals or numbers missing. A measly 42km/hr.

And THAT takes twice as much energy as destroying the Earth.

Let alone 200km/he, or 2000....


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To remove all bias, let's use the same character.

Which is more impressive, this:

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Or this:
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Where does it say in OP we are limited to comic feats?


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I mean,I know it's a comic forum, but I find moving a planet more impressive, because I have seen the calcs.

Now, if we are to argue it's more impressive to bust a planet due to the rarity of the feat or something, or to use some other metric, that's fine.

But by using the metric of energy needed, then we kinda have to fall back on RL physics.

Besides, leo, the calcs I posted had NOTHING to do with lightspeed anymore.


that's fine and like i said three times--in the real world moving a planet is certainly more impressive. but in comics things don't work out so well when we bring in rl science. supes held a black hole. the density of the singularity is infinite as the mass of the star collapses. so did he hold an infinite weight? because some superfans will argue he DID hold an infinite weight. and using rl physics they'd be right. so do we just say--obviously he didn't hold infinite weight--it's just comics!!1!

rl science breaks down all the time, which is why using it to prove arguments in the forum rarely works. could it work in this case? maybe, but then do we simply CHOOSE to disregard the fact that moving at ftl and greater speeds is, by rl standards a FAR greater feat than even that? me, i don't like to pick and choose. we stick with comics, if we're talking about comics. i remember a lengthy discussion with id regarding nate's 'plank length' maneuver. lol the author fully used the term completely incorrectly but force fit it into comics because it sounded cool. there are too many examples that prove rl isn't a very good or reliable way to look at comics.

again, could it be used to defend a stance in this thread? sure. you're using it. do i think those numbers mean that moving a planet in the comic world>one-shotting that same planet into complete dust? no, not necessarily and if a character in a book said destroying one is greater, then....it would be greater, despite the rl numbers. least imo. as it stands, both are about equally impressive in my mind. /shrug


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So JBL is (in his imagination) teaching the writers who work for DC and Marvel what gravity is and how science works? Well, explains a lot.

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