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Will Snoke be more powerful than Sidious?
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Yes, he will be more powerful. 11 52.38%
No, he will be less powerful. 8 38.10%
They will be equal (more or less) 2 9.52%
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Will Snoke more powerful than Sidious?
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Rebel95
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Will Snoke more powerful than Sidious?

What do you guys think? Vote please

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Either is possible, but I'm betting on more powerful.


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I honestly don't even think he will be more powerful than Vader.

Remember Kylo Ren's fear about never being Vader's equal? Would be an odd feat to have, and would be odd for him to revere Vader so much if his own Master is so much greater.

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Canonically speaking, absolutely. There seems to be an evolutionary positive feeback loop in regards to force power in canon.


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I honestly don't even think he will be more powerful than Vader.

Remember Kylo Ren's fear about never being Vader's equal? Would be an odd feat to have, and would be odd for him to revere Vader so much if his own Master is so much greater.
Right, because Kylo definietly knows how powerful Vader was erm


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Probably given Sidious isn't absurdly as powerful in Canon. That and the ST seems to be going on this whole "bigger is better." Thing.


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I honestly don't even think he will be more powerful than Vader.

Remember Kylo Ren's fear about never being Vader's equal? Would be an odd feat to have, and would be odd for him to revere Vader so much if his own Master is so much greater.


Kylo's own fear about presently not being a match for Vader has nothing to do with Snoke, lmfao.


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Either is possible, but I'm betting on more powerful.


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Right, because Kylo definietly knows how powerful Vader was erm



Yeah I'm sure Luke told him nothing about Vader.


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Kylo's own fear about presently not being a match for Vader has nothing to do with Snoke, lmfao.



So that's perfectly logical to you? That he aspires to be as strong as Vader instead of Snoke, despite Snoke being more powerful than Vader?

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Thor, if I'm currently a su-chef at a restaurant, is it illogical that I aspire to run my own restaurant eventually, instead of being a TV famous Gordan Ramsey mimicker? I mean it would be nice, but it's not my current goal, nor one that I see as being achievable.


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Better yet, if Kylo was simply idolising the most powerful person possible why doesn't he have a shrine to Sidious, who we know is more powerful than Vader?


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So that's perfectly logical to you? That he aspires to be as strong as Vader instead of Snoke, despite Snoke being more powerful than Vader?


Then why doesn't he aspire to be as strong as Sidious? Or maybe it's a matter of familial goals in mind; He has a set standard he has to meet with what his grandfather did(I will finish what you started) and to do so Ren believes he should be as powerful as Vader.


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So that's perfectly logical to you? That he aspires to be as strong as Vader instead of Snoke, despite Snoke being more powerful than Vader?


Perhaps Snoke is so above Vader that it'd be improductive for Kylo to try to reach that level of power from where he's right now?

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Then why doesn't he aspire to be as strong as Sidious? Or maybe it's a matter of familial goals in mind; He has a set standard he has to meet with what his grandfather did(I will finish what you started) and to do so Ren believes he should be as powerful as Vader.



Well he has/had no relationship with Sidious at all. But Vader was his grandfather, and the source of his own powers. Whereas Snoke is his current dark side master.

Like I said it just wouldn't make much sense to me. Not that this Star Wars trilogy makes much sense as it is.

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nah, he will be wizard of oz behind the curtain trickery, I doubt he's Qui Gon level tbh

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I see Snoke being Dooku level at best tbh.


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Snoke will definitely be more powerful. I see Snoke possibly reaching Valkorion/DE Sidious levels of power, or at least very near that.

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Snoke will definitely be more powerful. I see Snoke possibly reaching Valkorion/DE Sidious levels of power, or at least very near that.


How are you coming to that specific conclusion exactly?


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Kylo freezing bolts midair, ripping information out of minds, surviving a bow-caster shot; yes he's a shit duelist, but those force feats are nothing to laugh at considering how young Kylo is.

He is at least Savage Oppress level in terms of raw power.

It would make sense for Snoke to be, you know, powerful enough to where Kylo can't overthrow him.

"He is said to be very ancient (thousands of years old) and powerful. In the novel, Empire’s End, Palpatine states that he sensed a powerful dark side presence in the outer rims calling out to him, so powerful he believes it is the source of the dark side itself. He dispatched numerous search parties, and used a supercomputer from Darth Vitiate’s Sith Empire (hidden in an observatory under Jakku) to calculate pathways for navigation. These imperial search parties eventually became the foundation of the First Order, led by Snoke. Now, it seems logical to speculate that the uber-powerful dark presence Palpatine sensed was non other than Snoke. Therefore, it seems that Snoke may have surpassed Palpatine in power."


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Well not arguing that, just wondering how DB is coming to such specifics on the power. I mean he could also not be, but I guess we'll wait n see.


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