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Rockydonovang
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If the GI is actually Ventress level, sure, but I'm operating under the assumption that he's not.

Maybe someone can ask someone for clarification?

"almost" ventress level isn't the same as ventress level.

Also, I wouldn't give it too much weight unless Feloni was actually expressing authorial intent there, which he may or may not have been.

He has plenty showing he's a powerful dude regardless of that.

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"Almost Ventress level"

So he's B-Team level?

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He's definitely better than the average jedi knight

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He's definitely better than the average jedi knight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNLA7t-gIY&t=1m11s

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He's definitely better than the average jedi knight


Well don't think we have any real evidence of an average Jedi Knight for Canon, soo...what's that saying?


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inqusitors>vader

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inqusitors>vader



and the Emperor

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I can't really imagine him being anything higher than a seasoned Jedi Knight, which seems fair since he was a Jedi Temple Guard and that's no real negative against him since the vast majority of the Order would be Knights.

You realize this was the GI before getting trained by Vader?

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You realize this was the GI before getting trained by Vader?


Yes and?


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Well don't think we have any real evidence of an average Jedi Knight for Canon, soo...what's that saying?

I'm not the one who said he was Knight level, so...

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I'm not the one who said he was Knight level, so...


Oh I know.


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Any word yet on the other Inquisitors? If any of them were former Jedi?
Indeed. Palpatine implied that ALL of the Inquisitorius were former Jedi:
https://i.imgur.com/RzH9DIJ.jpg


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Huh. Wonder if any of them were Knighted before being turned as well.

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I'm not the one who said he was Knight level, so...



Well given he was a Knight, I'd say he by definition was Knight level.

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Yes and?

And your reasoning for him still being knight level, which is kinda laughable when he scales above feats more impressive than those achieved by members on the jedi council, is based on what he did prior to getting more than a decade of training under Vader.

Hence your reasoning doesn't work for the inquisitor as of Rebels.

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And your reasoning for him still being knight level, which is kinda laughable when he scales above feats more impressive than those achieved by members on the jedi council, is based on what he did prior to getting more than a decade of training under Vader.

Hence your reasoning doesn't work for the inquisitor as of Rebels.


So you're just giving him stuff, when he hasn't even shown much of anything, you really wanna believe he's Council level? So then what, Kanan jumped up several notches throughout the course of a few months then? That's what you wanna believe? You really wanna believe that Rebels introduced this character so powerful, then killing him off after 1 Season?

Yeah that sounds a little far fetched for my tastes.


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So you're just giving him stuff, when he hasn't even shown much of anything, you really wanna believe he's Council level? So then what,
.

Bruh, he scales above both the seventh sister and the 5th brother and versions of Kanan that have showings/feats that even members on the council don't have anything to match.
But because he was a temple guard when a decade pre-prime he's suddenly knight level?

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Kanan jumped up several notches throughout the course of a few months then? That's what you wanna believe?
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Bro, GI was, per Feloni, >>Kanan. Then he wrecks Kanan days before his finaL fight with him. Heck even in the same fight he was beating both Kanan and Ezra.

Trying to act as if the Kanan that beat the GI wasn't performing at a much higher level than the one who was getting wrecked by him is an exercise in denial.

Not that kanan's all too shabby of a measuring stick when an inferior version of the Kanan who GI was clowning can do sh!t like this:
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Twisting faceup as he dropped, Kanan hit the ground. He looked up into the onrushing mass – and stopped it, with his mind.
It was an odd feeling, like putting on an old article of clothing. It was like the leap, something he had sworn never to do. Not in front of anyone, to be sure.
But now he had done it.
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You're trying to force a restriction which there's no evidence for.

That's fairly obvious when you try to pass this off as a legitimate argument:

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You really wanna believe that Rebels introduced this character so powerful, then killing him off after 1 Season?

Where exactly are you going with this?

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Yeah that sounds a little far fetched for my tastes

Farfetched based on what?

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Why does he scale both above the 7th and 5th? What I'm going with is this, you really expect that the writers wanted the GI to be a Council level combatant? You sure?

I'm not denying that the GI isn't great, but I feel adding him to Council level is a little bit of a stretch. I'm willing to place him at Knight level, because that's more sound until there's more information. 1 comic issue doesn't cut that.

Unless of course, the writers don't give a flying bantha about placement in relation to where characters stand as combatants.


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