Quanchi one-hundred twelve, my friend, JJ Abrams could have defecated into a lightbulb (which is not very far removed from what he did!) and the film would have enjoyed similar box office performance. Disney saw that Star Wars non-fans would eat up a piece for piece rehash of a past film and decided to double up on the formula.
Rogue One was a fresh adventure full of wholesome characters, excellent action sequences, and clever writing. If not for one unfortunate Darth Vader pun, we would be talking about it on the level of cinematic greats like Citizen Kane, The Godfather, and Bruce Almighty.
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Rogue one brought with it something new. It let us view the rebels from a different perspective. They aren't all puppy-loving goodie-two-shoes; rather borderline terrorists who will endanger the lives' of civilians and kill when needed.
That humanoid imperial droid was all the comic relief that was needed without turning into Jar Jar 2.0. No obnoxious Mary Sues—Jyn was not a god. I didn't see any obvious political agendas being pushed.
Krennic was a compelling antagonist and not cheesy like general Hux (aka Hitler 2.0). Visuals were amazing. Space battles were the best by far. Although John Williams didn't compose the score, Giacchino did a splendid job as his replacement.
And best of, IMO, the movie focused on non-force-sensitive characters for once. Star Wars is not all about the "magic" people. That would just make it Harry Potter. Exploring the other aspects of the SW universe as it doesn't relate to jedi or sith gives a unique perspective which can be cherished in its own way.
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So you admit it was a success but guess what didn't make as much your Rogue One. That was Star Wars and it wasn't close. Objectively speaking you're retarded and sensitive.
Your opinion is shit. The characters were pure shit compared to the gems we got from Force Awakens. Cry in your cornflakes.
My dear friend, you seem upset, resorting to so many childlike remarks. Must we continue to jump through hoops to come to the truth? Very well, then.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens was not only the first live action Star Wars release in a decade, but it was a more major title that brought back all of the characters of past. Obviously more people will view it based on that alone. Moreover, the characters were anything but "gems": we have underdeveloped Mary Sues, a vague and generic villain, and Captain "garbage day" Phasma. I hope in time you will come to realize your ignorance, and at that time, I will gladly accept your apology for being incorrect about this matter. Thank you.
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Your entire post is comprised of your subjective opinion but opinions vary. You didn't like it which is fine but it did fanatically well. It didn't get poor reviews either. It outperformed Rogue One despite the built in fanbase. Snoke, Kylo were superior villains to Krennic and Tarkin. Rey and Finn were also more likeable than the Rogue one shit bags. It was set in a differ t tone but it wasn't a better movie. You can pretend you matter but in the end we both know you don't, little G.
Part of me thinks you're just not being genuine about this, you'll understand because for the most part it has been namely Force Users with everyone else. But I mean, it took a movie for some to realize this?
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You know in defense of episode II. Episode V had a lot, a lot, but a hsit loa dof waiting boring moments..... And GL kinda speed-up the interaction between solo and Leila....
Mean with a good dark ending, few less awsome actions scenes and anakin and padme scenes...
I mean in every sub plot of episode V the pacing is just errff so slow....
Everybody have a good memroies of it for the ending... But I will garantee you, what the prequel had bad, the original already have it, it already had plot holes bad dialogues needless references, and bad acting wasn't that rare due to the "natural perfomances" of the actors....
Yess you kinda loose stuff in teh prequels, the alkc of true great moments, but original trilogy great moment haven't aged well, it is not just graphic effects, it plots way of acting etc... This stuff haven't really aged well in my opinion, prequel had enetrtainement value, it deepen the humor and the action scenes....
And if by comparason prequel great moment (episode I final excluded) make a big flop compared to the original, the great moment and scenes from the original trilogy don't mean a lot in today fimique contexte, they do'nt even make sens anymore.
The only one that stand out is episode I final.
To me the force awaken is truly the worse because it really betray the idea behind star wars as whole (not just the original trilogy....), plus make ray O.P so they won't have to devlopp her character during the two next movies is juuuuuuust waoo....
the first part of what you said is undisputed; theres records of critical ratings as well as box office returns but now you are throwing your opinion in on which characters are more engaging than others... careful or you may be branded a hypocrite... remember that is just your opinion and opinions vary friend
The box office doesn't mean the movie was better than Avengers and worse than Avatar Lol. Brand names matter. The Star Wars brand was always huge. It was only going to get bigger under the Disney banner.
Critics weren't divisive on the film but fans were. This forum just gives a small taste of that.
Abrams should have stuck to Star Trek. His talents at modernising and rebooting were more suited there. But he simply lacks the creative flare for Star Wars IMO. It's very upsetting to me that he's returning for Ep. 9.
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He gave his opinion I have mine. I tossed in objective results to piss all over his excuses. The characters of Force Awakens will be far more memorable than Rogue One in ten years time. Do you agree ?
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It means it did objectively far better than Rogue One. He's free to have his poor taste as are you who also despised the villains from Force Awakens. 2 billion dollars doesn't scream divisive.
He's fine for Star Wars. He had a lot to pull off with the legacy characters returning and adding the newer ones to the mix. He gets to conclude what he started.
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Films that make that much aren't divisive. The haters just scream to the heavens.
I never said either Star Trek film was lesser in quality to Force Awakens but that isn't the topic. You try to change the topic in every thread you post. Force Awakens was better than Rogue One as were both Abrams Star Trek's.
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Not making a billion and being poorly reviewed and making over double that while being critically acclaimed is entirely different. Two DC icons failing to make a billion showed us how divisive the film was. It fell below expectations.
You can say this about any film since opinions vary. Star Wars Force Awakens isn't a divisive film. It didn't fall below expectations either.