Registered: Jun 2016
Location: The Throne of the Sheevites
*Vitidiocy
What you're saying makes very little sense. Sheevites support His Imperial Majesty because of his character, but rank him as numero uno because of his power. From the looks of things you're accusing us of bias, but if that were the case then you wouldn't see us claiming Sheev gets stomped by the Son and Abeloth.
The reason why Vitiate is and will forever be inferior to Sidious is because his feats, accolades and the arguments crafted in his defence aren't and have never been up to par. It's that simple.
Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
I like how six failed attempts at debunking my threads later, you still think the popular vote makes Sheevism the victor. Hillary had the popular vote and that ended swimmingly, didn't it?
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Why the AP and Legend hate? They're just less intelligent versions of Skillz, it's good to have a little Anti-Sheevism to balance out the Anti-Vitiatism.
Registered: Jun 2016
Location: The Throne of the Sheevites
Yeah, anti-Sheevism Vitidiocy is good that it produces amusingly bad arguments you can't help but laugh at when employed by AP or LeGenD. It's an entire sub-genre of comedy at this point. And when utilized by someone competent like Ant or Skillz, it usually ends bringing out the best in us Sheevites and be crushed in short order regardless.
Huh. Subtly trying to manipulate members of the forum to your side by using them as benchmarks that users you dislike are placed under. While pretty surface level as a manipulation tactic it's above the level I thought you were capable of.
You've genuinely surprised me with your ability AP.
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Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
It is you who is surprising, about a great many things.
How long will it take you and your ilk before you realise that all the logic I've used for the last few years has merely been a copy of the same logic used by those like yourself? Feat wars, power scaling and all of those flawless trains of logic. Honestly it's grade school tier.
You really think I care about the likes of you and Az? It's always been Temp and his like. Even before I started on swtor forums it was Temp, LotL and the classic sheevites vs antediluvians. Joining SWTOR in the first place was just to troll Revan fanboys.
Get a reality check already. I've never professed to be a Silver or the like, nor do I care to be one. Users like me ran out of steam nearly ten years ago.
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Last edited by AncientPower on Dec 9th, 2017 at 11:03 AM
Sheevism didn't triumph; Sheevites just got louder and clung to even more ridiculous methods of argument such as the whole "balance of the Force" arc as if Palpatine was exclusively responsible for the shift with a Force push. Ridiculous.
Balance of the Force is intrinsically linked to acts of individuals across the galaxy because it permeates all of space and binds everything within it. However, living beings have a far greater impact on the balance of the Force than inanimate objects. When corruption, perversion, conflict, oppression and killings become widespread, the Force will loose its balance and tilt toward Darkness. Sith are also known to perform evil experiments which may nudge the Force further into Darkness. Due to these factors, the Jedi attempt to resolve conflicts, preach morality and eliminate Sith. A source named Star Wars: Force and Destiny offers a decent explanation of the mechanics of the balance of the Force.
However, the desperation of Sheevites reached to an extent that they began to argue that Darth(s) Plagueis and Sidious were influencing the balance of the Force with their Force powers; as if their rituals and evil experiments are a demonstration of their raw power, and all else was irrelevant. I wonder why they were not tearing planets apart with a gesture then.
Over-the-top ridiculous arguments in short.
BioWare simply ignored the whole "balance of the Force" arc in its storytelling. Drew Karpyshyn touched this subject briefly in the Revan novel, and full stop. The author made it obvious that Vitiate was the source of Darkness and agents of Light were emerging to oppose him from time-to-time (Revan being one of them).
Vitiate has a history of performing some of the most evil experiments (ever) and common sense dictates that such experiments would have impacted the balance of the Force. And then there are a number of other factors to consider.
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When I compare the characters, I am not focusing on the wider implications of their deeds, I concentrate on their raw power, showings and implied levels of strength.
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