The point is, then, that Rey was essentially helpless against Snoke. She was blatantly not prepared, nor did she use telekinesis to try to counter Snoke's attacks. Thus, it's not necessarily a power feat on Snoke's part.
That being said, the author intent here is obvious.
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Like I said, he may be more powerful than Maul in the Force, but that still wouldn’t mean he could take him in a fight. Because I’m guessing against a Force user of Maul’s caliber, he’s gonna need to have pretty good Saber skills, and not just rely on TK/FL.
E.g. how much of a chance do you think Dooku would have against Maul without a Saber?
Also Snoke never ragdolled Kylo in a fair confrontation. Only Rey who had raw power but clearly lacks mastery.
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Yeah, it's obvious that Snoke is above Ben and Rey, just like it's made clear that Luke is also clearly above them.
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I guess we have no idea to whether Rey can put up Force barriers. I assumed she could because she seemed to have learned a bunch of Force abilities randomly, but ah well.
That's an interesting question. I think Dooku would stand a chance against TPM Maul but I don't think he could beat prime Maul unarmed, no.
But then again my Snoke = Dooku guess is just that, the only clear limit to me is that I'm 90% sure he's below Vader.
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I didn't necessarily think that he was like "Vader omg wish I was him". Saw it more as a tool to control Ben.
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No, we don't have the evidence. All we may do is speculate until the novelisation or even 9 comes out....
Though I'm certain the novel is gonna provide us with new debating material concerning the power of Luke, Snoke, Ben and Rey.
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Snoke is frail and physically inept as a combatant, that's his weakness. That's why he isn't taking Luke personally, that's why he needs guards to defend him. None of that however defines his power in the Force.
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Apparently, despite whatever Force power he has, he's too stupid to survive a double cross that could never happen to him in like a million years you guyz.
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So what you're saying is that Snoke would defeat Palpatine in a saber fight?
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I think what happened was an attempt to amplify Kylo's phrase: Let old things die/let the past die.
What do we get in TLJ? We have another 'emperor', who talks like the emperor ["It was I who" etc] same sort of settings, same looking guards, throne room etc. What Johnson did was take that, and remove it. Kylo says let old things die. Let these dark side users like the emperor and Snoke die, let's have a new villain, a different one. Let's show audiences a new diet emperor, then get rid of him in one quick stroke in the second movie of the trilogy.
I think Rian actually has the theme of the new trilogy as "Let the past die", it's painfully obvious in my eyes.
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Thank God for your eyes then, because nobody else definitely figured that really obvious thing out.
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Someone woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning...
I'm being humble in my interpretation of the movie considering all the whack ideas that have been going around such as Snoke being the most powerful force user ever. With stupid logic used for that, there's no guarantee that people actually see the meanings of the movie. Just like people saying that Rey > Luke because of their little duel.
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It's almost like people watch these movies about space wizards and robots, and... take them way too f*cking seriously... It's almost like people who spend all their time arguing about which fictional person is better at swinging not-real laser swords at other fictional people... care way too f*cking much about those things I just said.
Did you know I have over 23,000 posts here over 12 years? Every single one of them is me not wasting my life arguing about a fandom that makes other people rich.
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