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Ellimist will more than likely put more posters on ignore. Neph, Lost, who else only the cowardly Ellimist knows what kind of emotional pain he's currently experiencing. When you hurt him he retreats into his turtle shell.
I'll respond to you where I wish. If you want to PM me, you can do so. I'm not subject to follow your demands.
You're a joke, dude. You're ignoring shit that happened to construct some lousy narrative (I imagine it's why your first post, which was HORRENDOUSLY lacking, had this massive follow-up. Love that little "laptop" bit in the beginning. Bravo!)
You say I had a weak spine? Your ego is made of glass, Ellimist. Again, you couldn't stand that someone walked away from you because you're a shitheel. Like I said, you're a generic '05er. The same ridiculous debating hubris and lousy smarminess. There wasn't crickets, dude. You have your supporters (like the amazing and wonderful JKBart and Ziggy) but people needed to see how low you'll stop to gain an advantage over someone else, even on an online forum. It wasn't some "master trap", homes. You're not hard to read. I've dealt with dudes like you for over a decade.
Those were "specific complaints?" Reading comprehension nets another loss via The Ellimist. Go look at the post where I discuss you saying something in latin. Like, I was being a smartass and clearly mocking you. You act like I'm trying to "get away" with these vague figurative posts but you're attempting to alter them to shoehorn them as a legitimate point. It's sad. I didn't sit there and go "I'm bowing out because he used latin." Also, if you're also talking about your total misuse of modus tollens? You missed the mark. Wait, no you didn't! I actually believe certain races are smarter than others! You've done it!
Do you actually expect this to fly? And you wonder why I won't debate you? You're being intentionally thick now and this is why you're fucking untrustworthy as all hell.
You told people not to tell anyone because you would accept my apology? So is this before I crossed you with this ENORMOUS AND REALLY OFFENSIVE BOMBSHELL OF...
Or after? I mean, was it before I made this grievous and abnormally rude mistake by asking for a link to your discussion when you said NOTHING in response to my PM until you "asked for clarification?"
YES, SO PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE. You are full of shit. A very weak moment for you, Ellimist. I made sure it was the opposite of that to see how'd you respond after my PM. You jumped at ANY GIVEN CHANCE after I'd posted you the apology to weaponize it, which was EXACTLY what I thought you'd do.
Hold on, ladies and gentleman. Are you ready to see my "trollish answer" to when he asks his "clarification?"
*DRUM ROLL*
READY?!?
*DRUM ROLL*
You asked. That's what I was doing. I made damn sure I responded to you as passively as possible. You were holding it over my head. How absurd, man. Stretch some more shit, dude.
"I was gonna accept your apology. Also, HAHAHA want me to SPILL THE BEANS ON YOU?! Oh, you said I could share it but asked me not to. I'll throw that in there! That'll do a good job of reinforcing the threat! I mean, it's not really a threat. I just "said" it. WAIT, okay, nvm... I'll edit it. I WARNED you. See? A euphemism!"
This is legitimately abysmal. The gall you must have to talk about "good faith" and "honesty" with this tergiversation. Also, that IS a legitimate point about your dishonesty when it comes to what I'll refer to as the "modus tollens" incident. Repeating the same statement twice was a pretty solid implication I was speaking literally to what I would say, also the "If" does a nice job as well. You took it out of context (or purpose or by accident is pretty irrelevant at this point because you're defending it) and claimed I felt some races had higher intelligence over others based on what I had said.
GUYS...
... THE MINES OF MORIA! SERIOUSLY, SOMEONE CONTACT BLETCHLEY PARK!
You are SLIMY, dude, and now you're pretending it was SO complicated. There's a chance you legit feel that way, seeing as you perhaps just made a giant error. Who knows? You're not trustworthy so I'm not taking your fucking word for it.
You started where you wanted to start. Good job. Anyway, back to reality where most of us fucking are, Neph first responded to you by essentially stating racists weren't worth the time of day and you responded. He then responded being a smartass. He said you shouldn't debate racist trolls and you claimed he labeled anyone not a social liberal a troll. Neph said the individual you were discussing was literally a racist troll and you responded with a bit of sarcasm as well. Nothing major. You guys go on you invite Neph to a political debate, which he declines (OH NO! He declined! He must be bad at debating, scared, and whatever else! OR... OR... not everyone wishes to fucking engage you. Gee, I wonder why!), and then goes onto say he's avoiding those debates because they get too heated.
Then, Neph was a smartass regarding what was necessary to dismiss obvious racism. You then responded to her, saying no wonder everyone thinks he's a joke. Then, you say again that everyone thinks he's a joke after he says you were triggered. This had me concerned from the beginning, which is why I thought it wouldn't last long. Why act like Neph victimized you? The posts are all there. You were both being what appeared to be harmlessly sarcastic toward each other and you (who talks about me running around whining to others) continues to bring up what everyone apparently thinks about Neph. Like, a lot. You were continuing to be abrasive and it wasn't going anywhere. Hell, Neph even said he wished to discontinue the comments out of concern for potentially bullying you and then you threw it in his face by saying you "defend him out of pity", as if Neph requires your stalwart and TOOOOTALLY genuine "pity protection."
I'd also like to add I never accepted what Neph said before checking it ("Are you serious?" is a rhetorical "I don't know", in case you weren't aware). I had also then said that what Neph asserted "wouldn't surprise me" based on some of your arguments. Those don't mean, "Yes, this is definitely true." I told you from the get-go I felt it'd be a waste of time and I felt it was going in that direction and felt you were being an ass, which you were and then REALLY were. Who would've thought you were capable? So surprising!!!
Also, cut out this antiquated nonsense about "logic must come before emotion!" I'm not going to engage someone who's being a dirtbag, otherwise I'm not "logical." There's an irony there, especially considering your position (keep on putting "scientific racism" in quotes, chief!), so emotion isn't just something to be summarily ignored whilst having a discussion among other individuals, of which we all have emotions (I think?). The choice wasn't purely emotional just because I didn't respond your debate either. You're apparently logically-minded (despite your handful of errors) so you can put two and two together on that (I think?).
You are not honest and you are a bully. You thought I'd put up with your purposeful misrepresentation and you thought wrongly. Like I said from the get-go, you cannot handle someone just MIGHT have walked away because you're a dick. Neph too. People can say no or walk away. I'm not obligated to fucking jury duty or some shit.
I told you to respond to me over PM. I'll just say that:
1. Mis-pasting quotes to make someone look racist isn't just being a "smartass" and my retaliation to Neph was quite justified in by those standards.
2. You did say "I wouldn't be surprised...<Ellimist sucks blah blah>" to Neph's original accusation, before any of this Mines of Moria nonsense started.
3. This whole attempt to virtue signal is lolworthy given your past.
Anyway, respond over PM or don't respond at all.
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Lost, I don't really understand why Ell is a bully -- or rather, why you and Neph aren't. From my POV, Neph shittalks about him, you shittalk about him, and he shittalks about you two. Well, not sure about Neph, but honestly, Ell seemed more reasonable in your "debate".
Also, are you saying that Ell calling Neph a "bad debater" is bullying...?
Jan 3rd, 2018 06:40 PM
