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So ? Yoda doesn't need Sith training he's an accomplished Jedi who understands the force. Ben was trained by Snoke in the ways of the force. He said complete not start. Learn what words they say and what they mean. Don't act like one in the future. Trained by both Luke and Snoke. He defeated Luke without any dark side training.
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i also believe it was a deception. just not misdirection since kylo didn't lead snoke's attention anywhere. also i don't think force powers were even required to pull off that ruse.
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whoops, i should clarify: i meant the psychic aspect of the ruse, not telekinetic.
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I meant his intent didn't change Snoke just assumed his true enemy was Rey when it in fact was Snoke. This was only made possible due to the situation i.e. the location of the lightsabers. I do agree he didn't need force powers for the ruse but only to physically pull it off.
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So if I admit Yoda is powerful on the force that means I love him now, no. Ben beat him and left him for dead. Watch the film. Next time don't creepily look over Ben solo while contemplating smiting him in the future. Yoda is powerful in the force but that doesn't suddenly make me a fan. He is in my top ten but I favor the dark siders, sport.
Fair enough on the Yoda front, I've seen you argue for characters being better than him and assumed you weren't a fan.
This cute thing you've got going on with calling people things like kid and sport would be more effective if you didn't use a comma, but hey ho, you just be you pal.
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Registered: Mar 2013
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both yoda and snoke were very powerful and both got caught with their super-powerful pants down. it's like everyone is trying to argue that a character's mistakes and ill-fated miscalculations diminish their raw force power, while temporarily forgetting that their own favorite also made dreadful mistakes which led to their defeat.
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It's almost like they're supposed to be characters, not stand-ins for one's personal power fantasy.
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My lab facilities lack the space to conduct testing of that nature. Also, what's with putting ?'s at the end of sentences that aren't even questions? Are you Australian?
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