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VALKORION -- comment below who you selected for it to be counted. 20 51.28%
DARTH TENEBROUS -- comment below who you selected for it to be counted. 2 5.13%
MACE WINDU -- comment below who you selected for it to be counted. 10 25.64%
UNUTHUL -- comment below who you selected for it to be counted. 4 10.26%
DARTH KRAYT -- comment below who you selected for it to be counted. 3 7.69%
OTHER -- comment below who you selected for it to be counted. 0 0%
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1/18/2018 - #6A (Ranking SIX, Round ONE) - Most Powerful Tournament - VOTE!
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JKBart
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eh, tbh, let's go Mace, and UnuThul next thumb up
Mace > Unu > Valky


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I'm conflicted between Mace and UnuThul. Mace's mind is vulnerable to mental assault, but then again, if he could reflect something as intangible as Force speed back on Palpatine, then who knows - TP might work too. After all, isn't the purpose of Vaapad to draw on darkness as a whole rather than any specific Force technique? They are merely manifestations of that darkness from which they are drawn from when utilized by darksiders, as I see it.

Am I making sense? Who knows, my thoughts on this aren't the most developed or coherent. Maybe someone else - preferrably not AP, Nephtard or LeGenD - could reinforce or undermine these notions.
Is UnuThul a darksider?


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That's part of the reason why I'm currently leaning Mace. Presumably UnuThul's raw potency eclipses Mace's own, but things like shatterpoint and Vaapad are huge modifiers. And yeah, apparently Vaapad is powerful enough to not only absorb and reflect lightning but intangible, passive demonstrations of power like Force speed as well.

It's been a while since I've read DNT, but if UnuThul's an actual dark sider, I could see Mace being his absolute worst nightmare in combat other than Luke.

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For the last time. Vaapad does not backfire your opponent's abilities at them. Otherwise you would see Windu shooting lightning at Palpatine from his fingertips,


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Is UnuThul a darksider?


Perhaps one of the NJO specialists will provide an answer.


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That's part of the reason why I'm currently leaning Mace. Presumably UnuThul's raw potency eclipses Mace's own, but things like shatterpoint and Vaapad are huge modifiers. And yeah, apparently Vaapad is powerful enough to not only absorb and reflect lightning but intangible, passive demonstrations of power like Force speed as well.

It's been a while since I've read DNT, but if UnuThul's an actual dark sider, I could see Mace being his absolute worst nightmare in combat other than Luke.


You reckon Mace could deflect UnuThul's telepathy? Or is there some other way he could avoid mental domination?


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Valkorion

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Is UnuThul a darksider?
Ant or Bart probably know this, but I skimmed through the Raynar - Luke "confrontation" in the first DN book, and it seems like UnuThul is described as a dark presence.
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Raynar stepped toward Luke, and suddenly the dark presence returned , pressing against him, trying to push him toward the edge of the dais. Luke opened himself to the Force and pushed back, standing firm until Raynar came toe-to-toe with him, and they stood glaring into each other's eyes, two strangers who had been, in another life, Master and pupil.

"We have heard about this new Force of yours," Raynar said. "And we despair. The Jedi have grown blind to the dark side itself."

"Not at all," Luke said. "We have learned to see it more clearly than ever, to recognize that the dark side and the light side spring from the same well-inside us."


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Voting Valkorion, who should probably be higher on the list, trolling aside. Mace shouldn't be considered here and who the hell is UnuThul anyway?

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Unsock name? ^


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Unsock name? ^

Jack lol.

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thumb up


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I'm probably backing UnuThul. I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually on par or above RotS Sidious, which is Mace's established limit with Vaapad(or perhaps even above that limit if you assume Sheev threw the fight).

His raw potency is above Windu's, he's more versatile, and I'm not sure if he's an all-out Dark Sider, so much as just a bad guy.


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It is considered by the Jedi Order in the books that UnuThul and his colony are corrupted by the Dark Side, but it's nowhere clearly confirmed that Unu is a definitive Dark Side user.

On the other hand, FotJ makes it pretty clear that Raynar being UnuThul was an "episode with the Dark Side" or something like that.


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Well, to me it sounds like UnuThul is a full darksider, tbh, which means Mace very well could replicate the level of his performance against Palpatine here. The one issue remaining is telepathy, to which I am still looking for answers, be they helpful or detrimental for Mace's chances.


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Gotta go for Unuthul as well, nearly voted that way last round tbfh.

Also, yeh, he’s definitely a Dark Sider. Always used to make me wonder though, as he doesn’t seem as definitively ‘dark’ as most major Star Wars antagonists are made out to be. Begs the question if you can be as powerful as he is while being on the grey end of Dark


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Sure, as long as you´re powered up by trillions of insects.


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Yeh but that doesn’t really fly with me. They shouldn’t be anything but grey, so either the alignment comes from him alone or he’s grey.

It’s just strange, as expressions of the Dark Side do tend to get more potent with more emotion. If he’s held back by the nature of the Hive, you wonder how much power he actually had...


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Yeah, it's close, but I think Mace clearly has the best shot here.


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