Sheev wins. No contest. When it comes about military power: Sheev's the biggest.
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__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
To note, while sheev may not be doing any actually fighting, his dark side influence affecting the morale of his army comprised of strormtoopers numbering in the tens of trillions(?) is still very much present.
Krayt's Empire reached Sidious' peak "within a few short years" after deposing Roan. Considering seven years pass between that time and the series in it's present time, I can only assume Krayt's empire continually got stronger.
Then by Legacy War, add in Sith Troopers who pilot starships capable of tearing through capital ships? And the superior technology overall?
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This is a pretty important factor. Though the inclusion of Sith Troopers is suspect, since Krayt is not included in this and they cannot exist without him.
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When did Palps BM'd his men? Wasn't that just a myth to justify the defeat of the Empire forces?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
And the use of battle meditation at Endor wasn't later attributed to Grand Admiral Nial Declann instead of Palpatine?
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But for what it's worth, once Pellaeon saw C'baoth's Battle Meditation firsthand, he, too, agreed that Palpatine was using the same ability to bolster Imperial forces at Endor. /shrug
I could see Krayt's Empire winning through its 100+ year tech advantage on top of quotes suggesting a comparable level of relative power. Palpatine's best shots are Force storms + superweapons, many of the latter of which are still under development.
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Then there is no proof for that. Thrawn being Thrawn means nothing.
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Well Thrawn, Pellaeon, and C'baoth all deduced the same thing, so I'd say Zahn's intent in the novel was pretty clear... and so far as I can tell, there's no explicit evidence to the contrary. /shrug
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That's no deduction. That's assumption. Thrawn basically looked for am excuse to justify their defeat. But whatever...
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That wasn't the case at all. Thrawn knew, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Palpatine was using Battle Meditation to bolster/amp Imperial forces at the battle of Endor. In fact, that is the exact reason WHY Thrawn sought out Joruus C'baoth in the first place.
Remember, Thrawn was trying to reestablish the Empire, but the huge majority of his forces at the time were composed of unseasoned rookies. However, when they were under the influence of Joruus' Battle Meditation, their overall effectiveness increased by a factor of no less than 30-40%... And because Thrawn's resources were in such short supply back then, he essentially *needed* this advantage(which only Joruus could provide, mind you) to gain a definitive upperhand against the New Republic.
IOW, it was *only* because of his knowledge of Palpatine's Battle Meditation feat at Endor, that Thrawn had the wherewithal to find another force-user who could preform the same function for him.
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