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DarthSkywalker0
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BTW, the 6.6 trillion is over a ten year period between 2017-2026. In all likelihood, this number would continue to increase.


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Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course didn't get much out of it. The taxes weren't levied as a cost for services that were currently being rendered...


AHA! Gotcha!

So it IS like American's Health Insurance system! aaahahahahahahahaha

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Mission "darthgoober Freedom" accomplished.


If you didn't read my post and then laugh, roll your eyes, or say, "Sh*t, d*mmit, f***!", then I didn't "mission accomplish" my invasion into your mind.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
AHA! Gotcha!

So it IS like American's Health Insurance system! aaahahahahahahahaha

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Mission "darthgoober Freedom" accomplished.


If you didn't read my post and then laugh, roll your eyes, or say, "Sh*t, d*mmit, f***!", then I didn't "mission accomplish" my invasion into your mind.

Nope, 'fraid that's not what I thought when I read it lol. I was never disputing(or even discussing) any similarities between the revolutionary war and our current health care system, I was only discussing the British's motivation for the high taxes... sorry to get your hopes up lol.

Although, I actually do appreciate the likening you bring up, as it further cements that my principals are pretty consistantly applied since I'm against a more socialized heath care system big grin


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Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
The US healthcare system is superior to any Single Payer system of comparable size.



I would prefer you delete the "comparable size" qualifier because I don't think anything else out there is of comparable size. Far larger systems exist like China (not single payer). Far smaller systems exist like Singapore's.

In what way is the US Healthcare system superior to any Single Payer or Universal Healthcare systems, out there?


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Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
Costs of Universal Healthcare:

Before diving into the costs of health care, we should at least establish a time horizon for the analysis. Most studies, including the one Sanders, cites on his website use a 10-year gap.

Analyses conducted on the costs of Bernie Sanders healthcare plan:

Friedman: 13.8 trillion(2017-2026)

Thorpe: 24.3 trillion(2017-2026)

Mercatus Center: 27.7 trillion(they refer to this as a conservative estimate, likely more)(2019-2028)

Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget: 31 trillion(2017-2026)

Urban Institute(best study): 32 trillion(2017-2026)


...

For the reasons discussed there, I will rely on the Urban Institute as my primary source, when comparing costs.


Okay, fair.


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Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
So, in reality, the increase in national health expenditures is close to the one provided in the Urban Institute's study(6.6 trillion). The next two parts will be on healthcare quality and debunking bullshit.



Okay, so what about the United States healthcare costs?


1. As a percent of GDP: 18%

Also, no one uses PPP so that's just nominal GDP, I think. But I could not verify.

2. Per Capita: $10,348

3. Healthcare Outcomes in the United States:
We do anywhere from decent to atrocious compared to our peers:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...htmlstory.html#

And here's a recent study:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...bstract/2674671




Now, correct me if I'm wrong, the US is doing very terribly with respect to our spending on healthcare. We should have significantly better outcomes than our peers considering how much more we spend, per capita, right?


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@DDM, I'll address in the next post. I appreciate that someone actually reads my shit. Cheers man. By comparable size, I mean above 10 million.


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You either just parrot what your parents say, or go against the grain just to be an edgelord.

You don't have a true valid opinion like your elders on here.


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Plus he's a jew.


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You either just parrot what your parents say, or go against the grain just to be an edgelord.

You don't have a true valid opinion like your elders on here.
Or he's read an article or book on it which he plagiarises. Not that I have a problem with plagiarism online to be fair, almost everyone does it. The days of citation in the time of fake news on message boards is long gone, in fact, it was going out around the time DS0 was being born and surely it's "truly valid" DMB?


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Plagiarism wtf.


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Post a photo of yourself in class, Kurk. Take a selfie. Not kidding.


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Just because you didn't release the info at the time of your banning does not mean I knew you would never release the info. I had no way of knowing what you were planning on doing, so the ban was put in place regardless.

Also doxing is really one of the only things that are strictly enforced on this site, it's a big no-no. Plus you'd already been banned for it before.

But you're back now, and I'll tell you what, I won't bother banning you again just so long as you keep whatever information you found to yourself and not post it on the site. Not like it would matter anyways, you'd just make more sock accounts. No point wasting my time. Anyways, welcome back.



Wow, nice. thumb up


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I should also add that "posting it on the site" means sharing it with other members, especially in a manner that hints that there is intent to embarrass or insult. Just keep whatever you found to yourself and you can stay.


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I should also add that "posting it on the site" means sharing it with other members, especially in a manner that hints that there is intent to embarrass or insult. Just keep whatever you found to yourself and you can stay.
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I post such threads all the time and Backfire turns a blind eye because MUh LEFTY PULLTICS!!!!!!
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True. Very True.


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I'm glad we're all in agreement.


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