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Ren or Vader; Choose wisely
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DarthCaedus77
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Note: I actually like Kylo as a character, definitely among the best in canon, complex and interesting with a well crafted arc, good acting and a connection with him as a character I don't have with many.

But he can't touch the original child of Han [Caedus] or Vader, he never could.


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I know Kylo's the best of the new characters, but he's just so damn ugly.

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I know Kylo's the best of the new characters, but he's just so damn ugly.
That is what makes him even better. He is so hideous and his hands are so big they are alien like. I am really excited to see what an older, more polished Ren is capable of in episode 9.


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I know Kylo's the best of the new characters, but he's just so damn ugly.



Im convinced hes actually the incest product of Luke and Leia.

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Vader is the chosen one, his accolades and abilities shown across canon film, comics TV shows and games put his feats well beyond Rens at this time

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Vader is Starwars.
Kylo is Disney fanfic.

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Vader is the chosen one, his accolades and abilities shown across canon film, comics TV shows and games put his feats well beyond Rens at this time



Kylo only has one cool showing which was in his first few minutes of screen time. Freezing the blaster bolt after being fired.

But His training is a joke next to Vaders who was rigorously trained for over a decade by the Jedi at their peak.

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Vader is stomping in the polls, as 5 of Ren's votes are also trolls.

Vader's superiority is cemented. Long live the King.


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quanchi112
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I chose wisely.


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You chose an autist, who never touched a girl because you see yourself in him?

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You chose an autist, who never touched a girl because you see yourself in him?
If you think touching a girl is amazing then bow down he brought the ***** back to life. That is something not touching a girls skin though Vaders skin had to be protected at all times. If you touched him you might kill the poor thing.


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Galan007
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Definitely Vader.

But Kylo/Ben was far and away the best and most interesting character in the ST.


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Definitely Vader.

But Kylo/Ben was far and away the best and most interesting character in the ST.
Why do you prefer Vader?


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Primarily because there's SO much content surrounding Vader in canon that has advanced his characterization massively(in a good way.)

Flip side, Kylo's overall character-building in the ST took a huge backseat to Rey's. I still like Kylo for sure(he was the ST's only real redeeming quality, imo), but he just didn't get enough limelight for me to put him above Vader as a personal favorite.


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Primarily because there's SO much content surrounding Vader in canon that has advanced his characterization massively(in a good way.)

Flip side, Kylo's overall character-building in the ST took a huge backseat to Rey's. I still like Kylo for sure(he was the ST's only real redeeming quality, imo), but he just didn't get enough limelight for me to put him above Vader as a personal favorite.
Stick to the films only then I know Disney says the books count but I definitely do not think in reality the directors care at all. I know their policy but if it was films only would the answer still be Vader?



It really was about Ren and Rey. I typically side with the antagonist or the villain so not surprising here.


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I thought Kylo would be my favourite character by the end of TROS. But the movie didn't really expand on Kylo that much, he felt kinda less important compared to TLJ/TFA.

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Stick to the films only then I know Disney says the books count but I definitely do not think in reality the directors care at all. I know their policy but if it was films only would the answer still be Vader?



It really was about Ren and Rey. I typically side with the antagonist or the villain so not surprising here.
It's all part of the same canon now. stick out tongue

But films only it would still be Vader. I just think his overall characterization was better done in the OT than Kylo's was in the ST.


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Yeah, gonna have to agree with everyone else here. I love Kylo, I really do. My favorite character in the ST, easily.

But Vader is just more...iconic? Is that the right word? He leaves such a lasting impression on you with that intimidating voice and daunting figure. He commands respect and exudes power. And he's got the talent to back it up too, since he's pretty much the best at everything.

And that's not even mentioning his emotional journey from desperate jedi to heartless sith.

Kylo, by comparison, just isn't as memorable. He's a great character and all, with a compelling story, personality, etc. But he lacks Vader's...charisma as a villain, let's just say. And his story isn't as emotional, either. Not for me, anyway.


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If you think touching a girl is amazing then bow down he brought the ***** back to life. That is something not touching a girls skin though Vaders skin had to be protected at all times. If you touched him you might kill the poor thing.


He sacrificed his life to save a girl that beat him up and stole his family legacy. All for a kiss. Total simp move. Vader was a chad who banged the Queen of Naboo and had two badass kids.

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quanchi112
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It's all part of the same canon now. stick out tongue

But films only it would still be Vader. I just think his overall characterization was better done in the OT than Kylo's was in the ST.
I know they say it but I do not believe it. Directors and films play by their own rules.

Fair enough. Preference is preference no point in arguing.


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