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Was Exar Kun the Darkest power in the galaxy?
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Was Exar Kun the Darkest power in the galaxy?

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Was Exar Kun The Darkest Power In The Galaxy?

We all know the quote:
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But my question to you is:

Was he?

The end.



I have my suspicions.

First off, he's seen on Ossus mingling with Jedi and they see nothing wrong even with him directly speaking of Darkside powers
https://imgur.com/bAx6JBd
https://imgur.com/AuBRS0K
https://imgur.com/q0ezjbt



Odan-Urr immediately senses the Darkside in Exar Kun, indicating he wasn't trying to mask his power. The Jedi then immediately entered indicating they were nearby:
https://imgur.com/DX616xT
https://imgur.com/aMqwkGi



Then, we see the Jedi arrive on Yavin IV and Oss immediately recognizes something wrong, and realizes how Dark Yavin was. Indicating he wasn't totally confused as to what the Darkside felt like.
https://imgur.com/EWs4pMp
https://imgur.com/1GOH67m
https://imgur.com/yc8XpJm
https://imgur.com/OFHVsVf



Then Kun needs to use Sith Spirits to corrupt the Jedi:
https://imgur.com/SG2kUd3
https://imgur.com/rubzIpS
https://imgur.com/yuHdZPY



Additional context:

Exar Kun before he fully embraced the Darkside could sense the potency of Korriban as well
https://imgur.com/s14sQ6p

And Aleema could sense their Darkside energy 6 months earlier
https://imgur.com/lJdwNSJ



Kun had cut himself off from the Lightside and could only call on the Darkside before he gained a Darkside amulet:
https://imgur.com/ZPMs6j3
https://imgur.com/2j9rJj7
https://imgur.com/mBGfVyA

https://imgur.com/t7akWn7
https://imgur.com/Y7b3NMv

Kun gets the Amulet and realizes his power is in the Darkside:
https://imgur.com/2lLGOYK
https://imgur.com/M4caTnV



He then falls completely under Sith teachings:
https://imgur.com/bUdYMFO



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So what does the top part mean exactly?

It means that the Jedi knew what Darkside energy felt like from Yavin IV, yet they couldn't sense that same energy in Sith amulets, Kun, or from Kun killing their master with his power. Or from traveling with Kun after "the darkest power in the galaxy became darker."

Which would mean that Yavin IV outside the sith temples contained a greater concentration of Darkside energy than Kun. Which would mean he is not the actual Darkest power in the galaxy if taken literally and think it applies to every nexus in the galaxy for whatever reason, even retroactively...

Obviously I'm not championing their force-reading ability, but the fact that Yavin was so overwhelming that Oss couldn't help but feel it, yet he couldn't feel that from Kun speaks volumes imo.



So, what's the importance of Exar using and studying almost-certainly Darkside powers exclusively? It means that he's unlikely projecting some sort of Lightside energy to mask his presence. All he did was become more enveloped in the Darkside since he abandoned the Lightside. Now, I'm not saying he couldn't use the Lightside at all (though...), but I am saying that he only became darker and more knowledgeable in the dark arts. Plus realizing his power with the Sith Amulet as well.

As we saw, Odan could still sense his Dark presence. Which brings it even more in question that he was somehow masking his power.



The Sith Spirits is to show that it's further silly to compare him to Nexuses that literally drain, corrupt, or overwhelm people on their own. Merely being the presence of Kun should accomplish the same results if he is indeed above Nexuses like Naga Sadow's Tomb, and the like.

And Exar sensing Korriban outside the extreme sites is just further proof of that, and shows that a relatively inexperienced Jedi in Sith Knowledge can still sense lesser Dark energies. And if inexperienced Jedi can sense Yavin or better Jedi can sense Korriban, it stands to reason that they should be able to sense the Darkest Nexus in the galaxy who isn't trying to mask his power, right after he killed a Jedi Master within feet of them.



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So do I think the quote is worthless? No. I think all it's saying is that he's the Darkest (active) force of power in the galaxy. It's that simple. He's the Darkest being, the Darkest agent of power. Or simply, that he's the evilest being in the galaxy as shown by him murdering Jedi Masters.

Within the context of that comic, I think it's pretty obvious he wasn't depicted above planetary nexuses.

But what do you think fine readers? Discuss.


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The quote literally defines it as power by stating he's walking away with something that'll make him even more powerful. A simple contradiction that isn't actually a contradiction doesn't negate an entire narrative quote.


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Yeah this quote is obviously hyperbolic, he is still one of the strongest Sith but using this to argue he is above nexuses that can let people force push entire fleets of star ships outside of the Yavin star system is a massive leap in logic.


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Luke literally says that is exactly what he is, not to mention he demonstrates that he is via Kyp.


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So do I think the quote is worthless? No. I think all it's saying is that he's the Darkest (active) force of power in the galaxy. It's that simple. He's the Darkest being, the Darkest agent of power. Or simply, that he's the evilest being in the galaxy as shown by him murdering Jedi Masters.


That's always been my interpretation as well. Now sure how tf "darkest power" = "greatest power" or "most powerful evil."

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The context is self-explanatory, though.


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"Darkest" as in "Most Evil", so basically Kun's just the meanest person in the galaxy thumb up

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Short answer?

No.

Long Answer?

OBM's excellent post.


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One Big Fail's post literally defeats itself though.


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My posts literally defeat themselves and I get destroyed by OBM daily though.


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You literally suck OBF's c0ck, we know. Don't be so obvious about it, it's humiliating. If you do, on the other hand, discover testicles, then we can debate it.


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The idea that Exar Kun is below the nexus is laughable entirely because if the nexus was stronger than him he wouldn't have been so piss weak during the events of the Academy Trilogy and would have probably been able to restore himself to life long before, seeing as both natural nexuses and the force energy Kun needed to restore himself are both the living force

The idea the nexus was so much stronger than him is silly, simply because when you look at all his statements and feats, and then make logical inferences about whats being presented, the idea doesn't hold up.

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You literally suck OBF's c0ck, we know. Don't be so obvious about it, it's humiliating. If you do, on the other hand, discover testicles, then we can debate it.


You haven't been on discord lol, OBM and I get pissed at each other daily, you're just this reatrded lol.


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'Reatrded'

Literal self-harm at this point.


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"Darkest" as in "Most Evil", so basically Kun's just the meanest person in the galaxy thumb up


To be fair, I don't think Exar Kun is that evil compare to other Sith Lords, he overall just wants to conquer the galaxy with savage way, not trying to eat everything up.

Of course he's quite evil.

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It literally confirms in the very next sentence that the quote is referring to actual power in the Force. Like, this is a fail even for OBF standards.


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'Reatrded'

Literal self-harm at this point.


Shhh don't cry. We're here for you. Please don't harm yourself.

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