Re: Re: Was Exar Kun the Darkest power in the galaxy?
You literally said in another thread that a source was written by historians and was therefore not reliable. Double standards much. The SWTOR Encyclopedia was also written by historians.
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Who gives a shit what the Jedi Order knew? This is the narrator stating as fact that he is the darkest power in the galaxy. Unless you have a source that states Tenebrae is the most powerful dark sider as of the TOTJ timeline then your point is moot.
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Re: Re: Re: Was Exar Kun the Darkest power in the galaxy?
Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia is not the account of historians, but a definitive source.
The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia is the account of historians on the other hand.
I did not question the reliability of The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia; I just wanted to remind the relevant member that his line of reasoning apply to his posts as well. The exchange was between me and him, so you wouldn't know.
Sorry to disappoint you but this statement:
"The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed."
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
- crystal clear.
Ever = at all times; always.
Tenebrae was stronger than any Jedi or Sith at any point in time since he became the Sith Emperor. TOTJ timeline is indirectly covered.
Try again.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Jan 4th, 2019 at 08:31 AM
You know TOR Enyclodpedia is written in universe right so the accolade only accounts it till up to the end of the Act 3 character storylines as I pointed out? It literally confirms that it was written by historians.
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Where it is stated in the TOR Encyclopedia that it represent the POV of some historians?
The TOR Encyclopedia is in-universe in the sense that it does not provide out-of-universe perspective of developments in the lore. However, its content is DEFINITIVE as in to be taken at face value. Authorial intent is strongly emphasized.
The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia explicitly advertise the fact that it represent the POV of some historians after consensus. Nevertheless, does it cover anything in regards to the Sith Emperor and his Empire?
Is it so hard to move along with the times? The lore is ever-expanding, and new realities will come to light from time-to-time. Therefore, our judgment should be flexible to an extent.
Besides the statement which I have highlighted, their are additional realities to consider; the Emperor was becoming stronger over time, and he defeated an entire Dark Council [in a fight] centuries before confronting the duo of Revan and Malak for the first time whom he broke in mere seconds*. By the time of Revan, the Emperor was described as 'almost godlike avatar of the dark side'.
*The Emperor was above SoR Revan level of strength before the events of TOTJ.
The word 'ever' in a statement imply "all times" regardless.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Jan 4th, 2019 at 03:53 PM
It is about Exar Kun. It simply tells his fall to The Dark Side.
After all we can see that it uses 'him' when it refers to 'DARKEST POWER'
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So you've essentially admitted that it's written under the context of being written by historians after Act 3 of the class storylines so the quote logically doesn't apply to anything after that.
Concession accpeted I guess.
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Emphasis mine. SWTOR Encyclopedia is in-universe in the sense that it is a work of FICTION in OOU context but ABSOLUTELY TRUE for SWTOR verse. However, it does not represent the work of historians.
If you crave historian perspective of developments in relation to SWTOR project, then consider the works of Jedi Master Gnost-Dural.
I don't know if Kun's quote applies to Vitiate given the character was not even created at that time.
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