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The Secrets of the Jedi
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Darth Thor
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100%.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Kenobi series can be fantastic, but we know it's going to be limited in the sense that he'll be confined to Tatooine the entire time. Vos' story after the Purge could do a LOT of original world-building to current canon... And it certainly doesn't have to be limited to a single world either.



Pretty sure he will leave Tatooine.

But yeah its just kinda boring revisiting the same characters over and over. Vos is a character never used in live action and only on 1 episode in animation.

And the whole Kiffar thing can see visions of anything he touches, his rebellious nature, his underworld (and undercover) background... could be so refreshing and new whilst still giving us those lightsaber fights. He could have faced Maul or Vader, or multiple Inquistors. And any of that can be done without messing with established canon.

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Dunno. There's definitely TONS of potential there, imo.



Yeah Wayyyy more potential than the Obi-Wan.

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I suppose Kenobi might go off-world here and there, but never for any length of time. After all, his sole purpose at that point was protecting Luke(who NEVER left the planet), so the series will more than likely be set on Tatooine 99% of the time.

Exactly. A Vos series would not only be able to mesh with established canon, but it could expand on it massively. It's a shame that such a rich goldmine of potential will remain untapped for god knows how long...


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This is it:

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*Though I would note that earlier in the book, Luke mentioned Vos' Psychometry, yet it isn't listed here. IOW, these few entries do not represent the full extent of Luke's knowledge when it comes to light and dark side powers... They're evidently just the predominate abilities that he wanted to emphasize.


>.>

None of those are Light Side abilities! Well except for becoming a Force Ghost(well freedom wise anyway, Sith Spirits are still a thing.)

All Force Users can use those, why are they trying to make this a thing?...

They could have noted abilities that were actually strictly used by Jedi if they wanted....Light Side abilities...and don't give me that Luke has limited knowledge, if he's been around the galaxy.

It's just The Force, Core Force Powers. Those abilities don't need to be pigeon held in this Light and Dark thing.


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I mean, they are light side abilities in the sense that a Jedi can freely use them without tapping into the dark side, which I think was the point there. But yeah, they're just core abilities that pretty much ANY force user(light OR dark) can utilize. Aside from the spirits, he didn't go esoteric at all.

And regarding Luke: he *should* have the most extensive Jedi/Sith knowledge-base of any character in canon, tbh(with the possible exception of guys like Yoda and Palpatine.) The sheer amount of relics, information, and overall knowledge he collected over the years is pretty staggering.


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And regarding Luke: he *should* have the most extensive Jedi/Sith knowledge-base of any character in canon, tbh(with the possible exception of guys like Yoda and Palpatine.) The sheer amount of relics, information, and overall knowledge he collected over the years is pretty staggering.



Yes but unfortunately according to TLJ he would find them boring so probably never bothered actually reading them “page turners they were not hmm”. Despite having absolutely nothing else to do in solitary.

Rey in the other hand can fight the FO by day and read those entire texts cover to cover by night.

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Yes but unfortunately according to TLJ he would find them boring so probably never bothered actually reading them "page turners they were not hmm". Despite having absolutely nothing else to do in solitary.

Rey in the other hand can fight the FO by day and read those entire texts cover to cover by night.
Luke did read the ancient texts, but that certainly didn't account for all the knowledge he had access to...
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In the comics we see that Luke eventually finds Jocasta Nu's makeshift 'school' and trove of Holocrons:
https://i.imgur.com/Ch9B5YU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ihWmjjP.jpg


And before her death, Jocasta had recorded ALL of her knowledge(pertaining to the Jedi/Sith, and Force in general) onto these Holocrons in hopes of restarting the Jedi Order from scratch:
https://i.imgur.com/NQOMOYy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ucgXQeG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/n36At5M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fOJNGEb.jpg


And in the same arc, Palpatine himself confirmed the ridiculous extent of Jocasta's knowledge:
https://i.imgur.com/Tfwy2Ug.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/S5cV8FD.jpg
"Jocasta Nu knows EVERYTHING [...] Not just secrets of the light side of the Force. The dark side as well. Secrets that were not theirs to keep. Secrets even of the ancient Sith. Jocasta knows them ALL."
So even if he would have only studied Jocasta's library of Holocrons, Luke's knowledge-base would've been second to none. However, he also spent YEARS after RotJ scouring the galaxy for any other Force-related texts/relics he could get his hands on to study... And in addition to all of that, the spirits of Yoda+Kenobi+Anakin were all providing him with guidance along the way.

Suffice to say, canon Luke should have known just about everything there was to know about the Force... Should have.


...But I agree that where Disney canon is concerned, the clear intent is that Rey > ALL.


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I really hope its not true that [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Rey curbstomps Palpatine

If so then the rumours they changed that better be true.

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Luke did read the ancient texts, but that certainly didn't account for all the knowledge he had access to...
So even if he would have only studied Jocasta's library of Holocrons, Luke's knowledge-base would've been second to none. However, he also spent YEARS after RotJ scouring the galaxy for any other Force-related texts/relics he could get his hands on to study... And in addition to all of that, the spirits of Yoda+Kenobi+Anakin were all providing him with guidance along the way.

Suffice to say, canon Luke should have known just about everything there was to know about the Force... Should have.




Thats all pretty cool though.

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