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ozz81
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Regarding Anakin vs Count Dooku battle ROS

Wasn’t to sure in canon when Dooku fought anankin in ROS did sidious want Dooku to go light on anakin and hence not kill him or was Dooku going all out on anakin to defeat and kill him etc ?

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Originally, Dooku thought the plan was for him to pretend to be defeated by Anakin, and be taken prisoner. He realized midway through the fight that Palpatine intended for him to die.


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There was always a deal between Sidious and Dooku in Lucas' mind. Sir Lee didn't want Dooku to beg ofor his life, so it was cut-off. For me Dooku just realized at that point, when Palpatine encourages Anakin to kill him, that Palpatine broke their deal and he's already done.

I also believe, that Dooku still had the upper hand against Anakin and Obi-Wan, and - unlike a a novel version - he was taunting Anakin to both - him and Sidious - could see his full power. Anakin became much stronger, Dooku couldn't keep up, he tried but lost.

It was very similar to what Vader did in his final fight with Luke after all.

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Doubt it given their TCW fights.

Dooku was only slightly above Anakin in TCW S4. And Anakin grew vastly more powerful after that according to the databank.

So just dont see a scenario where Dooku was going to come out on top by ROTS tbh.

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Dooku was slightly above Anakin during their last duel in TCW, I believe it was a season 6. Very smilar version of Anakin stared the fight with Dooku in ROTS. And he was unable to find any advantage as long as Obi-Wan's hindering presence was there. After Kenobi lost and Dooku taunted Anakin to use his full power, use anger and hate, Anakin won.

Look at Anakin's body language in the the last seconds of their fight in S6 TCW. Perhaps two last seconds. And first half of their duel in ROTS.

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Dooku was slightly above Anakin during their last duel in TCW, I believe it was a season 6. Very smilar version of Anakin stared the fight with Dooku in ROTS. And he was unable to find any advantage as long as Obi-Wan's hindering presence was there. After Kenobi lost and Dooku taunted Anakin to use his full power, use anger and hate, Anakin won.

Look at Anakin's body language in the the last seconds of their fight in S6 TCW. Perhaps two last seconds. And first half of their duel in ROTS.


Cool but reckon Dooku was going all out ie doing his best to defeat anakin or holding back ?

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Cool but reckon Dooku was going all out ie doing his best to defeat anakin or holding back ?
He was following orders to be captured and realized right before Anakin was going to kill him that Sidious was going to betray him before the fight even started. Dooku I don't think was ever suppose to kill Anakin in any of their fights.


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Nah Dooku was never holding back when shit got serious with Anakin. Heck we see him go for a killing blow in TCW Movie.


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Dooku was slightly above Anakin during their last duel in TCW, I believe it was a season 6. Very smilar version of Anakin stared the fight with Dooku in ROTS. And he was unable to find any advantage as long as Obi-Wan's hindering presence was there. After Kenobi lost and Dooku taunted Anakin to use his full power, use anger and hate, Anakin won.

Look at Anakin's body language in the the last seconds of their fight in S6 TCW. Perhaps two last seconds. And first half of their duel in ROTS.



Then they were equals in Dark Disciple.

All that only shows Anakin never won by luck or due to Palpatine commanding Dooku to take it easy. Anakin was just that good, and getting better throughout TCW.

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I don't think the plan necessarily was *for* Dooku to lose the fight, at least not as far as Dooku was aware. The plan was for Dooku to win, but if he lost, Palpatine would grant him clemency or whatever the ****. Palpatine just didn't honor that deal, because all Sith are just retarded enough to not understand that betrayal and the eternal climb for power is the center of Sith idealogy.


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Fact Files say that Dooku had met his match in the form of RotS in their Invisible Hand duel, for what it's worth.


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The plan was for Dooku to be captured and taken into custody.

BTW what the f#ck is a fact file?


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It says official so it must be canon?


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Well It certainly wasnt part of the plan for Dooku to get his hands chopped off.

If the implication of this is that Dooku lost on purpose, you guys need to move on. He lost because Anakin was more powerful.

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That was the plan laid out by Palpatine.

The fact file said they were a match however.


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Meeting your match means you have met someone who is either equal to or better than you. Anakin is better than Dooku.


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Well you cannot argue the fact files I suppose.


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I don't think the plan necessarily was *for* Dooku to lose the fight, at least not as far as Dooku was aware.

No, it was. Dooku has a whole scene in the RotS novel where he complains about it. He's so caught up in his whining that he completely overlooks it when Sidious comments that he thinks Dooku would lose even if he did try to kill Anakin.


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Dooku is only initially not trying to kill Anakin in the novel, he then realises Anakin is too powerful to not go all out.

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I don't remember it that way. Dooku was starting to regain control and that's when Sidious interfered taunting Anakin which confuses Dooku allowing Anakin to get the final advantage.

Of course it's been a while since I read the novel.


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