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Mortanius
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"Your father wanted you to have this..."

In ANH, Obi Wan tells Luke that his father wanted him to have the lightsaber. So Anakin knows that Padme was having a boy? And does that mean that he told Obi that he had plans on his kid being a Jedi?


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probably OB1 just told this from his own point of view

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I think he was just telling a lie... He slayed Ani and grabbed the lightsaber.


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i think ben was lying

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In my opinon as well, Ben was lying. I don't see where or how Anakin could tell Obi-Wan to give Luke his lightsber. Surely he wouldn't say this as he's falling. Maybe they'll be some long scene before he falls, and they share some last dialogue with one another with Anakin knowing he's about to die, but I don't know.


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and after a certain other lie *cough*murdered your father*cough* in that same conversation, i think ben's credability was damaged... smile

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It's entirely consistent with what he was saying. Anakin Skywalker WOULD have wanted his son to have his lightsabre- simple as that.


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Ben's a serial liar.

For all we know, Obi-Wan may accidentally kill Mace (he trips and his lightsaber goes through Mace's head) - and all Obi-Wan does is say:

"It was him" *points to Anakin*

I wouldn't be surprised if that con-artist Ben is the cause of the Empire.

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He was too old to remember anything. He just tells the boy a load of BS because he has nothing to do.

Alzheimer is his second name big grin


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I'm beginning to think you guys are right on this subject. Although I feel there should be some scene in ROTS that justifies what Obi Wan said.


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"He betrayed, and murderred your father"

That could be true, maybe Anakin takes one look in the mirror and says "I hate you, now I shall betray" and leaps into a furnace.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's entirely consistent with what he was saying. Anakin Skywalker WOULD have wanted his son to have his lightsabre- simple as that.


but its not, he sayed "your father wanted you to have this..."
of coarse anakin would have wanted luke to have the saber,
but what ben said implies that anakin knew he had a son, and instructed
ben to give him the saber, big difference.

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quote:
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but its not, he sayed "your father wanted you to have this..."
of coarse anakin would have wanted luke to have the saber,
but what ben said implies that anakin knew he had a son, and instructed
ben to give him the saber, big difference.


Exactly.


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quote:
Originally posted by PVS
but its not, he sayed "your father wanted you to have this..."
of coarse anakin would have wanted luke to have the saber,
but what ben said implies that anakin knew he had a son, and instructed
ben to give him the saber, big difference.


I KNOW that's not what he said, but it is what is SO. So Obi-Wan was not lying in any way when he is allegorising Anakin as dead.


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Obi-Wan also could have been conveying a sentiment Anakin related to him prior to his crossing over, but then I guess that would expose his forbidden marriage to Padme......hmmm


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just a thought but since anakin apparently knows padme is pregnant,i dont think it makes a difference if it was a boy or girl,but the child would be taught the ways of the jedi,i think obi-wan picks up anakins lightsabre for sentimental value,then as he finds out its a boy obi-wan feels its the thing to do,for the same purpose of sentimental value,obi-wan in a way gives luke a sort of purpose becouse ben knows luke is a good pilot and feels the force in luke,though luke cannot,so i guess what i'm saying is that ben gives luke his fathers lightsabre and tells him his father would of wanted you to have this,is to give luke some insight of who his father is and the power luke has,although at that moment luke is skeptic,i think this could be the same case if leia were in lukes place...

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Maybe anakin tells padme that he wants to keep his first lightsaber to his children early on the movie, before the dark events take place. Then, when obi1 returns from hell just with the saber of his former padawan, Padme tells the truth to obi, and recalls the first wish of his dead husband.


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or mabey obi-wan gives padme the lightsabre,and as she dies obi-wan chooses to give the lightsabre to luke,becouse i believe it is obi's idea to take young luke to owen and beru....

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quote:
Originally posted by yerssot
probably OB1 just told this from his own point of view


I think the answer is that simple...if [the good] Anakin knew that he had a son, ofc he'd want him to have his lightsaber.


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exactly spearhead.
obi-wan still sees the good in anakin and i expect that he likes to remember anakin as his good friend rather than him as the evil darth vader

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