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I'm curious on how GL will work the old strom troopers in with the cloned stormtroopers. Maybe someone out there can shed some light on this thanks.

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Well, the Stormtroopers are clones. This was posted by someone else in the OT section, don't remember who:

"The response goes into the usual "they didn't know they were going to be clones in the 70s" answer, and then says the interesting thing:
However, there is also an in-universe explanation, provided by none other than George Lucas himself. During the productions of Episode III, Lucas told crewmembers that the stormtroopers seen in Episode IV are made from multiple sources. That is, they're not all Jango clones. By that
time in the saga, other clone hosts have been selected.

Lucas intimated that the selection proces has become more political than strategic in some cases - a highly placed officer's cousin might be selected over a more capable specimen, for example. The politicization results in less-than-ideal candidates, which could explain some of the embarrasing marksmanship witnessed in the original trilogy."


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thanks I'm somewhat new so next time i will spend the time to search for threads that have already been posted. (((Interesting stuff though)))

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.... That DOES sound like a fitting explaination...
Cool.


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Pfft. I hate the Clones ideas in the OT....


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Yeah, they're such dumbasses.


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when they redid the OT on DVD they should have changed all their voices to jangos. They changed boba, why not change the troops voice??


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See explanation above ^^^^^^^^^^


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If they had've changed all the Stromtrooper's voices to Temeura Morrison too, I would've KICKED SOME F*CKING GL @$$!!!
And that's why Lucas made that statement: He's lazy and pulls ideas out of HIS @$$....stick out tongue


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oh, yeah i remember hearing that but i didnt think it was true. does anyone know who the other clone hosts might have been??


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^-Read the post above...again....
Like Lazy Lucas said, probably high ranking Officer's or their cousins....roll eyes (sarcastic)
That's so ****ing stupid.....


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I kinda like that admittedly "ass pulled" concept of the in-employing....
It kind of comments of capitalistic approach of industrialists and politicians' attitudes of incestuous relationships in employment (A lot of firms are more likely to employ you if you're related to an existing employee....) and the capitalist's philosopistic flaw of whatevers cheaper we'll go for in the name results/profit....
Why pay out for someones "Considerable" fee for cloning like Jango's, when mr cheaper inefficient muppet'll do....
This does kind of weave in beautifully with the "crappy-shooting-ability-of the-stormtroopers-thing".... smile

If you pay peanuts....


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Okay. It works like this.

Clone Troopers in Episode II = good troopers cloned from evil Jango Fett

Clone Troopers in Episode III = good guys that turn evil (just like Anakin turns into Vader), thus becoming Storm Troopers

Storm Troopers in Episode IV = a few evil troopers that remain + new recruits + new clones???

I attached a pic that explains.

Attachment: clone trooper transformation.jpg
This has been downloaded 223 time(s).


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yep ; agree with Dark Yoda there.

The stormtroopers are remenants of the clones + more recruits. as we were told on Kamino, the clones were genetically modified to grow faster so in the OT they would be some 50 years old +.

therfore they had to have new recruits


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Okay. It works like this.

Clone Troopers in Episode II = good troopers cloned from evil Jango Fett

Clone Troopers in Episode III = good guys that turn evil (just like Anakin turns into Vader), thus becoming Storm Troopers

Storm Troopers in Episode IV = a few evil troopers that remain + new recruits + new clones???

I attached a pic that explains.


But they aren't evil, they are just controled by Palps.


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As is Vader...is he not evil?


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quote:
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Okay. It works like this.

Clone Troopers in Episode II = good troopers cloned from evil Jango Fett

Clone Troopers in Episode III = good guys that turn evil (just like Anakin turns into Vader), thus becoming Storm Troopers

Storm Troopers in Episode IV = a few evil troopers that remain + new recruits + new clones???

I attached a pic that explains.


laughing ....oh and a nice pic.


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Clone Troopers are super cool... Stormtroopers suck... and I dont know why?? They cant shoot worth a Sh**!!


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Originally posted by Obiwalker08
when they redid the OT on DVD they should have changed all their voices to jangos. They changed boba, why not change the troops voice??


I have never seen this question answered correctly, so I'm answering this here. If you're all aware of this, then ignore what I'm posting. It really doesn't matter if the stormtroopers are clones or not as far as the voices go.

Voices and accents are, for the most part, not genetic. They are learned. Boba spent his childhood (or the early part of it anyway) with Jango. They seem to travel around quite a bit, so he never really had any other consistent accents and voices around him to influence his voice. Therefore, he picked up to whole Kiwi accent, and ended up sounding just like his dad. On the other hand, the OT troops would never have met Jango. They are all dispersed throughout various places in the galaxy, so their voices could end up sounding quite different from Jango's and each other’s.

Now, do I think GL thought of this? Maybe, maybe not. The point is, it actually does make sense.

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Remember that the Kaminoans modified the clone trooper's genetic structure by adding growth acceleration so that a mature clone could grow in half the time. Regardless of how this factors in, most of these clones would be 45 to 50 years old by the OT.

Which means you can take several views on this:

1) Most of the clone troopers have died/been killed as they have gotten older.

2) Most of the clone troopers have retired (unlikely in my opinion).

3) Or they are still serving the Emperor at an old age and that is why they suck so bad!!

4) Some new clones were created at some point (unlikely in my opinion).

And regardless of any of these views, probably the majority of the storm troopers were recruits by the OT.

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