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That's what this issue of Insider hints at, which I happened upon at the supermarket. Old Palpy's gonna give Mace a run for his money. So methinks he's a Form VI master? That is, the generalized style that is a little of everything, but considered ridiculous to actually master?
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Form six is considered the worst, though, because it's so generalized, and often hastily implemented by the new age of diplomatic Jedi, as is most often the case in the time of AOTC and ROTS. I imagine if one could master that form (Which would be an immense undertaking) one could be very versatile and perhaps outright invincible in saber combat.
Also, Mace is the only Master, and you can't say Maul would be better this time jackstain, because Mace invented the style.
I mean, (although he didn't invent it) Mace would suck with a staff saber against Maul
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It's the philosophy behind the style, really. I would imagine one couldn't use Vaapad true to its form if one doesn't resist the dark side. So using that, you could argue he is the only worthwhile practitioner of the style.
i never said he was better at it......although it's not hard to be better than someone, even if they did invent the certain thing in question. He has the advantage though, because he trained harder and with a staff.
I might be wrong here but didn't Mace invent Vaapad between Ep1 and Ep2, and Maul was clearly dead at that time. So it would be impossible for him to have mastered the form.
No he did not. Read Star Wars Insider magazine, issue 62 in the seven deadly forms of lightsaber combat part, and there's a picture of Maul fighting obi/quigon which clearly states that they are using form 4 and he is using form 7.
Yes, I know that Maul used Form 7, Vaapad, though, isn't Form 7 in itself, it's more of an addition to the form. I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that Mace invented Vaapad to complete the form, because Form 7 was incomplete. So you could say that Form 7 consist of two forms, one complete, and one incomplete. I could be wrong though, It was awhile ago.
Nah, Vaapad and form seven are exactly the same...It never says anything about it being incomplete. Read Shatterpoint, if you haven't already. Mace used it, Depa Billaba used it, Darth Maul used it.
Well, you might be right and I might be wrong, but I still know that I've read somewhere that Mace invented Vaapad after Ep1. So there's noway in hell that Maul was a practitioner of Vaapad.
If not a completion of form 7, Vaapad is at least an extension of the form.
BTW, I have read Shatterpoint, but that was awhile ago so I can't remember if Stover mention Maul in it.
It is in shatterpoint that vaapad is form 7. its not an extension, its the exact same thing, he just gave it a name....trust me, you dont sound too sure about ur facts, and trust me, i am.
That's because I'm not, I just have this memory of reading somewhere that Mace created Vaapad AFTER Ep1 to go with the darker times the GFFA was facing, after the revelation of the sith presence and all. But since I can't remember where I read it, I really can't be stating it as proof though. So if you have proof of the contrary, I would like to see that, 'cause I would hate to be misinformed.
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Well, I doubt that Maul had to train harder than Mace in regards to his own style, assuming the zabrak used it (Which I think he may have). And if someone masters something, it's like second nature. A master of Form X will defeat a practitioner of Form X,Y, or Z simply because they have perfected it. And while a dual-bladed lightsaber is certainly a very effective weapon in the right hands, I don't think it beats true mastery with a single saber. For one thing, balancing and manipulating the staff is a lot more difficult than simply using a blade. And you can only attack with one end at a time, assuming you hope to recover in time to defend yourself. It's a rather awkward weapon to use, really, and one more likely to hack off a limb than a regular lightsaber. And while I won't say that Maul is an amazing fighter, Mace is a master in the Force and a master with the lightsaber. He wins, easily. Now... was that the topic of the thread originally? I've forgotten.
Mar 27th, 2005 06:57 AM
