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Vanquish
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Anakin Didn't destroy the Jedi's at all, the clones did

I keep reading peoples comments about how Anakin turning to the dark side was the destruction of the Jedi's. That isn't true at all. Anakin had very little to do with it. Anakin didn't wipe out the jedi's, the clone troopers did. All Anakin did was kill a few younglings, and the vice roy in a sealed room. Big deal man. Even a weak ass sith like Darth maul could have done that.

Look, in Anakins very first one on one fight vs another Jedi, he loses his legs, and the ability to breath. Wow, good work Vader.

No, anakin didn't destroy the jedi's, order 66 and the clone troopers did. In fact, Anakin turning to the darkside didn't really do anything at all for the plot of the movie. Palps and his clones did everything on their own. Palps could easily have acomplished his goal with Dooku, or even Maul at his side.

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Oh, Anakin was the destruction of the Jedi, trust me. He hunts down the survivors later on, as well. The clone troopers were his army, though.

And done it with Dooku or Maul? Heh! Dooku lost to Anakin, and Maul to Obi-Wan; I think he'd want one of the two killers of his apprentices at his side, and which one is more emotionally unstable?

And Anakin's fight with Obi-Wan was not his first fight with a Jedi; he also fought Cin Drallig in the holograms of the Temple fight.


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I don't follow EU, IT AIN'T STAR WARS smile

And even if Anakin hunts down the Jedi's later on, I'm pretty sure it's the clones who do most of the killing. Also, who cares if Anakin is stronger then Dooku and Maul. Lets say Dooku is the one with Palps still. All he has to do is fight Anakin with the clones at his side. Easy. Chosen one or not, high med' count or not, he still can't beat an army of clones.

The point is, Palps and the Clones did everything on their own. Anakin or Vader isn't needed for any of it.

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If you read the book, he also kills shaak ti. He defeats alot of jedi. Don't say Anakin didn't do anything, when the whole backstory of Darth Vader is he helped kill all the jedi.


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Re: Anakin Didn't destroy the Jedi's at all, the clones did

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I keep reading peoples comments about how Anakin turning to the dark side was the destruction of the Jedi's. That isn't true at all. Anakin had very little to do with it. Anakin didn't wipe out the jedi's, the clone troopers did. All Anakin did was kill a few younglings, and the vice roy in a sealed room. Big deal man. Even a weak ass sith like Darth maul could have done that.

Look, in Anakins very first one on one fight vs another Jedi, he loses his legs, and the ability to breath. Wow, good work Vader.

No, anakin didn't destroy the jedi's, order 66 and the clone troopers did. In fact, Anakin turning to the darkside didn't really do anything at all for the plot of the movie. Palps and his clones did everything on their own. Palps could easily have acomplished his goal with Dooku, or even Maul at his side.


man, you are so way off. try watching the movies again


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Oh, it's Star Wars, just not George's Star Wars... wink

After Episode III, Vader does most of the killing, not the clones. The clones become Stormtroopers, which then have to fight the war against the Rebellion.

And Palpatine needed Anakin to make his plans work. Anakin, after all, did drop the line to Mace and the Jedi he took with him, which led them to their doom. Plus, Anakin would continue Palpatine's legacy, which was more or less Palpatine's intention.

PALPATINE: Lord Vader shall become more powerful than both of us, Yoda...

(or something like that...)

Palpatine didn't want Dooku or Maul after he found Anakin.


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Palps could EASILY have carried out his plans with just the Clones. Anakin doesn't do shit, except kill him in the end. I bet if Palps could turn back time, he would have just stuck with Dooku, and had the clones kill all the jedi's themselves.

All palps needed really was any old Sith apprentice. Basically to use as a pawn, because he didn't want to reveal himself to the rest of the allies.

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well, in regards to all things canon, you have a point. palpy could have just sent the clones to the temple. and the outcome would have been the same. but i think the real hunting down of the remaining jedi happens in the years we don't see. come on, you can't picture vader finding some remaining jedi in hiding and ****ing them up?


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You're missing the point of Palpatine's recruitment of Anakin.

Anakin was going to be a VERY powerful Jedi, and Palpatine wanted to make use of that. Why train a weak apprentice when you can train one that will continue your legacy for a good many decades? Though, it does all blow up in Palpatine's face, but that wasn't part of his plan. His plan was for Lord Vader to be the one to continue the Sith legacy as ruler of the Universe.


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Of course I can see it happening. In fact, I accept that it IS what happened. My whole point is that it isn't needed at all. Any half ass sith lord could do that with the help of the clones (who are the true Jedi killers)

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wtf, why dont people have a subjective view of Star Wars, its the subjectuve stuff that make me love it. why the f*ck does everyone have to be so skeptical on the objective point of view of star wars


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And Rex, sorry to say, but I think you forgot who the Sith are. Ultra competitive, to the point of killing eachother. Don't forget the reason they initiated the rule of two in the first place. I seriously doubt palps cares about Anakin's future. From palps perspective, he feels that he will be the one through the ages that carries on the sith ways. Who the hell knows how old he is, but i'm sure he feels he will be around for a long time.

But you don't really believe that he recruited Anakin because he is thinking of his legacy so to speak do you?

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Re: Anakin Didn't destroy the Jedi's at all, the clones did

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Look, in Anakins very first one on one fight vs another Jedi, he loses his legs, and the ability to breath. Wow, good work Vader.


you didnt happen to catch the action of the jedi temple slaughter on the hologram? took out a few jedi there...



but i just saw rex point that out stick out tongue

plus that was like one vs two or three jedi....

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And Rex, sorry to say, but I think you forgot who the Sith are.



check rex's join date.


now check yours.



now check rex's post count.



now check yours.



see the pattern? i would think rex knows what he's talking about...

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Anakin was identified since Palpatine saw him, when he was 9 years old...he always knew of his existance, when he was Plagueis`s apprentice, Anakin was created as the ultimate weapon to achieve their goal: control of the entire galaxy...so the only thing palpatine has been doing is just use people as instruments to bring the full erradication of the jedi.


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Mist, what does post count have anything to do with anything? Rex has an opinion that Palps in some way cares about Anakins best interest and his future. I simply disagree. Siths don't care about eachother at all. That has been proved time and time again. They back stab eachother constantly. Look in JUST the movie times. What, less then 50 years? Palps says he killed his master. Palps turns on Dooku and has Anakin kill him. Anakin turns on Palps and kills him.

3 dead siths in 50 years, all killed by other siths. Do you really think they give a shit about eachother? Post count or no post count, the Siths care only of themselves.

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man, the f8cken Jedi were not perfect, and the sith came to be because the Jedi could not see it.

Man, BAN ME TOO, DISCUSSIONS SUCK.

BAN ME SO I WONT COME BACK


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BEN KENOBI: "A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights..."

nuff said.


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Mist, what does post count have anything to do with anything? Rex has an opinion that Palps in some way cares about Anakins best interest and his future. I simply disagree. Siths don't care about eachother at all. That has been proved time and time again. They back stab eachother constantly. Look in JUST the movie times. What, less then 50 years? Palps says he killed his master. Palps turns on Dooku and has Anakin kill him. Anakin turns on Palps and kills him.

3 dead siths in 50 years, all killed by other siths. Do you really think they give a shit about eachother? Post count or no post count, the Siths care only of themselves.


post count = rex posts....a lot....in the star wars forums....i would think he knows a thing or two...

palps and anakin are friends. dooku is a tool of war. maul....who knows what the feck maul did apart from feck up Black Sun for palps...

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