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Ganner Rhysode
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[un]Intentional biblical reference in episode III?

Now, I'm not a highly religous man, but my parents still manage to drag me to church with them every once in a while. Anyway, today I heard something at church that caught my ear, and it's an excerpt from the Bible, the book of Thessalonians. The text is as follows:

When they say, "there is peace and security," then sudden destruction will come upon them, as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and there will be no escape!

Now, if you don't catch what I think it might be referring to, it's right before the big Obi-Wan versus Anakin duel, and Anakin says "I have brought peace and security to my new empire," to which Obi-Wan responds "Your new empire?" and so on and so forth until Anakin gets owned and, what do you know, suffers sudden desctruction and great pains.

Or, this is just some elaborate coincidence. Interesting either way.


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George Lucas is Jewish isnt he...? i think its just a coincidence.


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I have brought piece and security? That sounds a little too random to be just made up. He probably did use it.


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George Lucas is Jewish isnt he...? i think its just a coincidence.

he must be he's a democrat


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i Really think that it is all coincidence considering the man is jewish. now one thing you could say is biblical is anakins almost christlike image and also how mustafar could almost represent hell.but again i really dont think there is anything biblical in the movie that was put there on purpose.


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Is that from the old or the new testament?

I bet its from the old one... Don't jews share some of the old scriptures with christians?

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"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security." -ben franklin

the damnation of sacrificing liberty for security is a common theme throughout history. also the most commonly ignored. so you'll find reference to that in many writings

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Dirk Jade
George Lucas is Jewish isnt he...? i think its just a coincidence.


Get your facts straight before you post this. He's a methodist

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He has gotten ideas from the bible before, why not now?

*points to the virgin Mary*


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Yeah, I've seen a lot of those easter eggs on some site, why would it be some extreme coincidence if they make references all the time? To think it's a coincidence is too far-fetched in this case.


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Is that from the old or the new testament?

I bet its from the old one... Don't jews share some of the old scriptures with christians?


actually, its from the new testament.....


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peace and security... they like go together, they were just in a war dude, its a coincidence.


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Hmm, interesting... especially when you consider the part in that bible verse about a pregnant woman *Padme*. I guess it all fits?


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huh I have to think. It all seems to fit, I doubt it could be a huge coincidence, so I guess I agree.

(sssshhhh I wasn't here whistle )

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Originally posted by darthvader_fan
he must be he's a democrat


He is? confused


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aw man!!!

as if i hav anything to do w/ it...


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Hmm, interesting, Ganner. Though, I must say, this should be added to one of those 'You know you're a Star Wars geek when...' lists. stick out tongue


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Originally posted by Dirk Jade
George Lucas is Jewish isnt he...? i think its just a coincidence.


No he's not and he has put New Testament allusions in before, such as with the exchange between Darth Vader and Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back when Vader is talking about overthrowing Sidious and them ruling the galaxy - he likened it to the Devil offering Christ the kingdoms of the world.


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^dunno about that, he tells padme the same thing in ROTS just before choking her!

its just something he says to get people to join him. it didnt work on padme and it didnt work on luke, he's 2 for 2.

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Then there's the line Obi spouted:

"In the name of--"

I didn't know that Christianity existed in SW.


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