well, according to some of the ep3 rumors, there may be clone factories all over coruscant and the republic. however there are countless planets so how about we agree to disagree, using growth acceleration and jango's decaying DNA as a proof and say that most stormtroopers are clones but many are conscripted civilians from caridia. The scouts are all civillians thus explaining their disorganized behavior in ROJ. Most civillian troopers are scouts or commanding stormtroopers. civillians can advance in rank. clones cannot. The Special forces or ARC Troopers are trained with force pikes and double bladed sabers and then become the imperial guard (i base this on infinities which featured the roya guard using double bladed sabers). how's that for a theory?
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i agree, once the clones were brought in, i didn't think it messed with EU, just means some are clones, some aren't. The fact that they have different armor may also be evidence of this. New kinds of troopers, new clones. Plus, i think you run into the same problem with clones that you do with droids, similar minds, minimized critical thinking...Sometimes you need some individuals in a crowd to properly lead when the bantha poodoo hits the repulsor drive.
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maybe lucas should add some scenes of carrie fisher toking on jabba's hooku. come on, you know why he's always eating those frogs. "Ho Ho HO (My hand is so big) Ho Ho HO Ho Ho"
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he does not, god people just want to find flaws in perfection. he screams heeey! and it came out as two syllables because he was supposed to sound terribly excited. There is no way in hell he would allow a take of him yelling carrie in the film. It sounds like Vader says F*** in Empire when luke kicks him off the freezing platform in Bespin, but I must say I'm pretty sure he's not really saying that. Somebody started that a long time ago and everyone has jumped on the band wagon. You can make it sound like that if you want to, if you're already thinking he said it. But the sad truth is he just yells Heeey! and it comes out in two syllables that makes it sound simlar to if someone yelled carrie.
and Jello: The ARC's are the mother$%^#ing $#!+ !!!!! They are so friggin' cool. Temura Morrison is on the cast list, and since the clones have already been shown without helmets and they don't look like him, I think an ARC might get some screen time, might be the clone Obi-wan has befriended in all the rumours. The ARC's are direct clones of Jango, so they will look exactly like him. Which, for Obi-wan I would think would take some getting used to after his little beef wtih Jango. Have you seen those things in action in the cartoon? Damn they can move. The first time they showed them in the Battle of Kamino in the comics made my hair stand on end. Those are my favorite Clone Wars era EU characters, here's hoping they're canon by summer 2005!
i've heard a lot of BS about star wars bloopers, "carrie" being one of them and another involves a potato in the asteroids in ESB. And I thought they all looked like Jango. the only difference is that the ARCs were Personally trained by jango, not in simulations. thats why they are the prime candidates for the royal guard. BTW, have you seen the helmetless boba in ESB infinities? What the hell happened to his face?
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exactly yerssot. You could yell "Hay-ee" (as he did). And that, in all the rumble, could be heard as Cariee.
Darth Jello-It says in the Battle of Kamino comics that the ARC's were DIRECT clones with NO MANIPULATION. If you think the clones look that much like Jango, go watch the scene in II where they show some clones eating, put a good well lit pic of Jango up next to the screen (do I need to ad with his mask off?) and look well. They look like they could be related. But they aren't the same actor. This is to show the affects of the genetic manipulation. ARC's are direct clones, so they look just like him.
I like the idea of the ARC's being the royal guard, but I always thought of them a Sith disciples, not force users per se, but down with the Sith order.
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Well now, this shows a certain want of knowledge from some fans! The issue is more complex than just denying its possible truth.
In the Insider's Guide, it clearly says that George Lucas himself admitted that Mark Hamill did indeed say "Carrie."
I know Ben Burtt and even Mark Hamill disagree but I believe GL.
Ben, after all, says it is a result of sound processing, but GL was there to hear it, and Mark Hamill only says he MEANT to say something but it came out wrong, so one way or another I am pretty sure that what he said sounded like "Carrie" even if he didn't mean to say that.
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just because someone can use a double bladed saber and a force pike doesn't make them a force disciple. In one cut scene from ROJ vader actually threatens a guard with the force and chokes him. I think a force disciple would be able to avoid such a fate. As for Boba's face. He looks just like jango except unshaven. what i'm reffering to is that he has a huge disgusting scar running diagnolly across his face. It looks like half of it was torn away at some point. again this info comes from infinities.
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a force disciple doesn't mean force user. it means one who would be like a groupie to the Emperor but (hopefully) without the sexual favors.
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His job. Does it matter? its just showing he's been through hell, we knew that, and they're just showing it. Its just supposed to be cool. There's no storyline for it, it was just the artists decision to make him look hardcore. A lot of the art in the comics is off a bit. They use images from the movies, sometimes when they don't even make a lot of sense, simply to make it feel like the movies. The art for Jedi Vs. Sith is awfull (the designs, the actions fine).