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Miffed The Dark Side Rules.

Yep.

The Dark Side Rule The Good Side.

But Why Does The Good Always Have To Win?

I Mean, The Empire Is Very Powerful.

What Do You Think?


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Because the Dark Side is parasitic and feeds upon itself unto destruction.


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well, if the parasitic nature was what completely governed the sith, they would not have been destroyed in RotJ. it was the good and compassion in vader that broke the cycle, not his yearning for power.

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It was their parasitic nature that meant there were only two of them which made that extinction possible.

The Emperor was trying to get rid of Vader, and Vader of the Emperor; it is the concept which always ensured the Sith never win in the long term.


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Originally posted by Ushgarak
It was their parasitic nature that meant there were only two of them which made that extinction possible.

The Emperor was trying to get rid of Vader, and Vader of the Emperor; it is the concept which always ensured the Sith never win in the long term.


well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:

1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was

either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.

:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.

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Still.

The Empire troops are powerfull.


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Originally posted by PVS
well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:

1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was

either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.

:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.


In a way I agree... the rule of two is some kind of insurance the Sith can endure... it is the only way. But it is fragile... apparantly it only works when there are two, but the relationship is always tense since the basis is hate, anger jealousy etc... So the apprentice will always want what the master has and the master is afraid to lose his position. So an apprentice cannot get too powerful for a master, and for the apprentice there's always looking for that one moment of weakness...


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by PVS
well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:

1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was

either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.

:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.


Of course it is a good rule, it was the only way for them to survive!

But you seem to have missed the obvious here. It meant that there were only two of them! Which rather obviously makes it easy for them to be wiped out forever. Which is what happened. Vader suddenly going all soft wouldn't have made much of an impact if there had been dozens of Sidious types.

It is the Dark Side's basic nature that makes them so vulnerable. If there only ever being two of them is actually the best position they can get, then the weakness of the Dark Side is exposed by it.


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Originally posted by Ushgarak
Vader suddenly going all soft wouldn't have made much of an impact if there had been dozens of Sidious types.


correct...because the sith would have been extinct long before palpatine and thus no vader stick out tongue

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Re: The Dark Side Rules.

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Originally posted by ~Kongu_Dude~
Yep.

The Dark Side Rule The Good Side.

But Why Does The Good Always Have To Win?

I Mean, The Empire Is Very Powerful.

What Do You Think?


Erm.....because the Sith are Just as hypocritical as the Jedi?

Both are pathetic.

There is only the Force. Light and dark. One.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Clonetroopers rock.


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Erm.....because the Sith are Just as hypocritical as the Jedi?


ok is it time once again for the "force = scale, GL is wrong!!!111" debate?

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Clonetroopers rock.




We get that already. laughing out loud


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ok is it time once again for the "force = scale, GL is wrong!!!111" debate?


Its never stopped, haven't you been around?
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We get that already. laughing out loud


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We ALWAYS get it that Alliance likes clones. Maybe we should get him an inflatable female Clone doll... so he can play all by himself. wink


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