Tuur
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Plotinus
quote: Plotinus is considered to be the founder of Neo-Platonism. Taking his lead from his reading of Plato, Plotinus developed a complex spiritual cosmology involving three hypostases: the One, the Intelligence, and the Soul. It is from the productive unity of these three Beings that all existence emanates.
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Jun 2nd, 2003 10:21 AM
Tuur
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(www).utm.edu/research/iep/p/plotinus.htm
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Jun 2nd, 2003 10:24 AM
Dexx
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crap
Jun 2nd, 2003 07:39 PM
alaba
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nice tuur..could you explain further i think you make sense...
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Jun 2nd, 2003 08:09 PM
Tuur
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quote: Originally posted by Dexx
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Jun 3rd, 2003 07:50 AM
Tuur
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quote: Originally posted by alaba
nice tuur..could you explain further i think you make sense...
There's a lot of Matrix / Architect logic in there... Some snips:
quote: ...this supreme prior is, according to Plotinus, the One, which is neither being nor essence, but the source, or rather, the possibility of all existence (see Ennead V.2.1). In this capacity, the One is not even a beginning, nor even an end, for it is simply the disinterested orientational 'stanchion' that permits all beings to recognize themselves as somehow other than a supreme 'I'. Indeed, for Plotinus, the Soul is the 'We' (Ennead I.1.7), that is, the separated yet communicable likeness (homoiotai) of existents to the Mind or Intelligence that contemplates the One. This highest level of contemplation -- the Intelligence contemplating the One -- gives birth to the forms (eide), which serve as the referential, contemplative basis of all further existents.
quote: The perfect contemplation of the One, however, must not be understood as a return to a primal source; for the One is not, strictly speaking, a source or a cause, but rather the eternally present possibility -- or active making-possible -- of all existence, of Being (V.2.1).
I could go on and on...
Read the article if you're interested. Swap Intelligence for Matrix and you're set.
Jun 3rd, 2003 11:09 AM
JediHDM
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I just found this thread, and i thought it would be a good read. This helps to think of Neo as, not just himself, but the collection of the disbelief, i guess you could say, of all the humans inside the Matrix.
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Sep 11th, 2003 12:30 PM
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Oh! Very interesting. Off the top of my head wouldn't Trinity be a good candidate for "The Soul"?
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Sep 11th, 2003 12:37 PM
Fire
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hmm
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Sep 11th, 2003 12:48 PM
Sifer
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Trinity, Neo and Smith sitting in a tree...3 become 1 and all are free
Wonder where else I posted this
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Sep 11th, 2003 02:07 PM
JediHDM
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true, sifer, very true...
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Sep 11th, 2003 03:43 PM
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Now we know why Smith actually copies himself. Because he wants to become something that he cannot - The One - Everything
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Sep 11th, 2003 03:57 PM
JediHDM
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everything, and nothing...Smith wants the power all to himself, but for what reason? and if you are right, what will make him help Neo and Trin?
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Sep 11th, 2003 04:06 PM
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i think.....smith fancies Neo
Sep 11th, 2003 04:08 PM
Sifer
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Who says he has to do anything willfully
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Sep 11th, 2003 04:54 PM
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its a bit scary lol
Sep 11th, 2003 04:54 PM
JediHDM
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Sifer> true, but it would be easier if he did, especially if he realizes the Oracle's point.
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Sep 11th, 2003 05:04 PM
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He could possibly understand the concept because of his 'human emotions' but from what we know, he hasn't actually met the Oracle as of yet.
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Sep 11th, 2003 11:53 PM
JediHDM
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"yet" being the operative keyword. We still don't know why he's in the Oracle's apartment.
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Sep 11th, 2003 11:54 PM
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True, but we know she doesn't inhabit that place anymore. At least she isn't during the course of Reloaded. Instead, it is as if she is 'on the run'
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Sep 11th, 2003 11:57 PM
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