Now I knew about most of it but was unsure about the robot part. But wow I know everything that will happen and still have never wanted to see a movie more. Reloaded was better then the first and Revolutions will top them all off. This guy did not even get the whole Reloaded thing lol and still he is kissing the Bros ***.
Just got back from a screening in New York City of Matrix Revolutions.
Don't want to give away anything...... but-
First off I loved the first and was disappointed by the second. I found Reloaded confusing and boring. The big chase scene at the end was good, but it looked like computer animation. I didn't like how at the end of the first one Neo had the ability to stop bullets and fight in slow motion.... so what do the baddies do in the second one..... they shoot at him and try to beat him with kung fu.
This one starts off exactly where the second ends. It lags for the first fifteen minutes or so. It is a continuation of the second- a lot of boring talk about confusing plot points. Then it goes crazy right until the end. All of the characters are great. The plot great. Effects are stunning. There is a big fight in the middle that, in my opinion is the best ever seen on screen.
They should have taken Reloaded, cut it down to twenty minutes and just added this to the beginning of this film.
See this movie- It's f-ing great!
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Ok, and now we have this...
Harry--
Thanks to a friend within the large corporate behemoth known as TimeWarner, I was able to a screening of “Matrix Revolutions” last night in New York City.
So that you know where I stand in terms of my opinions on the first two films in the trilogy, let me say that I really liked the original film which seemed fresh and original when it first arrived on the scene. “Matrix Reloaded,” while entertaining, seemed bloated and over-hyped and left me feeling sort of blasé about sitting through a third chapter.
If “The Matrix” was the brain of the series and “Matrix Reloaded” the fat that should have (in hindsight) been trimmed from the trilogy, then “Matrix Revolutions” is pure lean and mean muscle that serves up an astounding finale. It’s a sci-fi lover’s wet dream.
This movie delivers on the promise of the original film in a way “Matrix Reloaded” didn’t. The Wachowskis have thrown everything they have at the screen and, wouldn’t you know, it works. The film has enormous action sequences chock-full of “Holy Shit!” moments that make the freeway chase in the second film seem tiny and insignificant in comparison, yet even with these bigger set pieces the movie manages (rather surprisingly) to elevate the human drama in a way most FX-driven movies seem unable to do.
There’s a real sense that something important is at stake here and the battle between good and evil/man and machine reaches an epic scale that other genre filmmakers will be hard-pressed to top – some of the imagery the artists involved have conjured up is truly astounding. But it’s not just about state-of-the-art effects. Characters are forever changed. Lives are lost, including that of a major player. Humanity is on the verge of extinction. The film wears its bloody heart on its sleeve, making this the most human “Matrix” of them all.
The film jumps right into its story without a recap of the previous chapter. We’re right where we were when we left off at the end of “Reloaded” and the Wachowski brothers assume you’re up to speed on the story details. Right away things are noticeably better than “Reloaded.” The pacing is better than in the last film. The performances are less stiff than before and the story more engaging. The transition to a new actress in the role of the Oracle is seamless and she’s terrific. Jada Pinkett Smith gets a chance to shine with a bigger, more important role than last time. The music roars in easily the best score of the three films. The battle in Zion is incredible and complex and full of human struggle. An epic fight in the skies during the finale plays like the ultimate “Superman” movie, backed by full orchestra and choir.
Is it big? Is it over-the-top? ****, yeah! What else do you expect? It earns its place among other visionary sci-fi films of recent decades and you can expect big boxoffice and huge DVD sales to follow.
Yeah, some of the dialogue is grandiose and borderline cheesy. But the pretentious atmosphere that nearly sunk “Reloaded” for me is gone and the tone is more in sync with that of the original.
A side note: film snobs will predictably turn up their noses and complain that they haven’t been served a plate of delicate character moments we all enjoy in other smaller, character-driven films (I say this knowing a few in attendance felt the action overwhelmed the characters). I would disagree and also say they’re missing the point. This is a postmodern take on the classic struggle between good and evil told with kick-ass comic book artistry and a style uniquely its own. It exists in and of itself and, if you accept the rules and conventions the filmmakers have laid out within the universe they’ve created, you will be rewarded. It doesn’t hurt if you go into it expecting to see a big-budget commercial action film.
How does it end? Obviously I won’t tell, except to say that it’s satisfying, not entirely as expected, and a few cynics in the crowd might find reason to smirk. But overall this is a far better film than the chapter that preceded it and it delivers a rousing finale to a pretty amazing trilogy. Can't wait to see it again.
Thanks,
CarpalTunnelDude
Ok, so... are these 'agents' of the Matrix infecting our Zion free world with their rhetoric about the coolest and the best... or is MATRIX REVOLUTIONS really an asskicking monstrosity of cosmic levels? Well, personally... I'm hoping it is an asskicking monstrosity of cosmic levels. I'd really get a kick out that. BTW - is this year, the year of Blind Heroes? DAREDEVIL, ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO and MATRIX REVOLUTIONS... and of course with what Peter did... RETURN OF THE KING.... I've said too much. Anyway, that's all for now...
But Wait... There's More.... Beware... this time there are spoilers... lots of them...
Howdy Harry and company, I managed to squeeze into a sneak peek of The Matrix Revolutions here in Chicago. We weren't told going in what the movie was, only that it was a studio film for release before the years end.
I loved the Matrix and hated Reloaded. I figured that since Reloaded and Revolutions were shot together the final chapter would be more like its brother than its father. The Watchowski's have knocked one out of the park, and not even Reloaded sitting in the stands knocking the ball away can keep this trilogy from being remembered as the masterpiece Revolutions has insured it will be.
A quick synopsis to get the ball rolling:
Agent Smith is steadily spreading through the Matrix, absorbing humans and ruining the machine's power supply in the process. Neo is making back door deals with the machines, while Trinity and Morpheus are contacting the Oracle, and the rest of Zion is preparing for the inevitable onslaught of sentinels only 12 hours away. Before Neo faces Smith he has to find his way through the buffer world, where the code is translated and controlled into the Matrix, which only one man has access to: The Keymaker. The Keymaker of course bit it in Reloaded so the Oracle sends Trinity, Seraph, and Morpheus to crash the Merovingian's party where they intend to use Persephone to persuade the Merovingian to set Neo free. Recall the kiss Neo gave Persephone in Reloaded, it comes into play here.
All of the above is setup within the first 20 minutes of the movie, what happens in each instance and what results I will not ruin here. All I feel the need to say regarding plot is that what you thought you knew about the matrix, even given what the Architect and Oracle revealed: its wrong. Simply, totally, wrong, and you'll be smiling every time the brothers Wachowski pull open another curtain. The answer to "What is the Matrix?" is finally revealed here. A Matrix inside of a Matrix? Luckily for us the Wachowski's are better than that.
I found it interesting that the action was hyped so much for Reloaded, but little was revealed or publicized about Revolutions' sequences. Revolutions is the movie Reloaded should have been. The passion is back, the intensity of the action sequences, even exceeds the first Matrix. The Burly Brawl is useless compared to the final Neo vs Smith fight. They fight on the ground, in the trenches, in the skies, I can still feel the impacts: little impresses me in movies these days, expect this sequence to be ripped off and cannibalized for the next decade.
I was looking forward to the destruction of Zion, those raving Zionites had it coming and I was rooting for those slippery Sentinels going in. That changed fairly quickly, I felt for Zion, they actually feel like real people this time around (especially ironic given what is revealed 3/4ths the way through) and my heart was racing as the sentinels ripped Zion apart bit by bit. Incredible sequence (intercut through most of the last half) that builds and builds, completely relentless.
The movie doesn't give you a chance to breath, I couldn't be happier that the Wachowski's brought this train back online, they couldn't have ended this trilogy any better. After Reloaded I figured the Matrix would live on, while the trilogy would be forgotten, Revolutions secured this trilogy's place in film history.
Give it up hollywood. Keanu You are a very rich man.
"That changed fairly quickly, I felt for Zion, they actually feel like real people this time around (especially ironic given what is revealed 3/4ths the way through) "
hmmmm........I guess that could be construed as lending creedence to the old "it is all a computer simulation" theory which stated that there are no people, everybody is a program..........
someone has to say this; have we got any proof that this is genuine?\
i mean, the quote Evil Dead just posted from the article, is like well a huge spoiler; i don't think the wachowski's would appreciate this coming out 2 weeks before the premiere.
Oh, I agree........the MWAM thing would suck.......
you must have missed the theory that was discussed a few months back......I believe it was on here but maybe it was on The Last Free City's board.
Anywho.....it went something like this.
There are no humans at all. There is no Matrix. There is no real world. There are humans in pods crap. It is all one big computer simulation. All characters inside/outside of "the matrix" are characters inside of the programming. The purpose of the simulation was discussed as being:
A) The machines are trying to further their A.I. so they created human type characters and placed them in human type situations with other characters in hopes of better understanding the inner workings of the human mind.......so they can upgrade their A.I. with this new information about love and whatnot. Basically machines evolving.
B) The entire story is a simulation created by Humans. There was no war. Neo is actually a machine which is being fed this "simulation" so he can better understand humans and appreciate them. Speculation was that Neo is actually B166ER and this is the "prison for his mind" discussed in the Animatrix episodes of Second Renn. .......this ofcourse would be his rehabilitation.......to teach him to value human life and why it was wrong to kill his master........also to teach him what could become of the world if behavior like his towards humans were to continue.
The discussion was nothing like the MWAM theory.
How can there be a Matrix if there are no humans? How can there be a Matrix within a Matrix if there is no matrix?
Anyway.....it was a theory discussed months ago. The whole "they actually feel like real people this time around (especially ironic given what is revealed 3/4ths the way through)" got me thinking about it again. That quote seems to imply that they are not real people........ since we know the MWAM theory is false, it would seem to leave only one other theory that I've seen discussed to be probable.
Y'know EvilDead, I would so hate if there was no Matrix and it was just all a big program. That's like, "...and he woke up in the morning and realised it was all a dream. Then he went to school and lived happily ever after." Plus then, where would The Matrix Online go? I seriously am feeling a bit queasy thinking that it's all just a big program by machines to investigate the human psyche.
I do not know if this is real or not. I never read any of it untill the originator of this thread posted it.
I'm only saying that IF IT IS true........that's the only conclusion I can draw from the statements made in the originator's first post.
Could very well be completely fabricated. I'm not going to stake my life on any "reviews" untill Nov. 5 when I come on here and review it for you guys. (first showing is at 1 p.m. eastern time here so I should be able to post a review by 4 p.m. or so)
Harry Knowles wouldn't put up reviews if they weren't real.
Except for the few instances where he recieves studio plant reviews, which he can't control. And I sincerely doubt that revolutions requires any "plants" to generate positive hype.
Also, studios often only use one plant at a time, not three. And from what I've heard on other message boards, there REALLY was an NYC screening of the movie, so, the first bits of the public truly HAVE seen revolutions now.
"I seriously am feeling a bit queasy thinking that it's all just a big program by machines to investigate the human psyche."
Its not. The guy in one of the reviews says that smith is taking over all of the bodies in the matrix and ruining the power supply for the machines. It isn't about investigation it really is about power. The naysayers who didn't want to believe it was cold fusion the machines were using, will have to just move aside along with the mwam folks.
I also don't think we need to infer that the people of zion are machines either. I think my original theory that zion is just another form of control, in the concept of religion, heaven, etc, may hold some water though. I think they are sheep being herded, but not machines.
""...and he woke up in the morning and realised it was all a dream. Then he went to school and lived happily ever after."
I agree to an extent.........but you must realize the movies focus alot on philosophy. Maybe what happened in the program/dream isn't what is important.........maybe it is what was learned from the program/dream that matters.
also........I just thought of this.
If this old theory proves to be true.......this would explain alot about the "path" of the one.......and how the Oracle knows it. Also explains the whole "choice is an illusion" issue. It it's all a simulation, ofcourse the path is already set and the oracle knows it........ofcourse everything is predetermined and the programs like the Keymaker are "only doing what they're meant to do"........
Nice...I havent believed much of the spoiler post...but this seem's coo', it's not a spoiler as much as it is a vauge overview of what ppl have seen.
I KNEW THE KISS HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH NEO GETTING TRAPPED......MUAHAHAHAHAHA. No mention of the twins....dammit! >.<
__________________ After the failure that was "the matrix revolutions" it is always good to know you CAN count on somethings to deliver. One trilogy to rule them all!
What a bunch of horse raddish!! FAKENESS!!!!!!! No WAY theyll release this film two week before the set world release date. HORSE RADDISH I TELLS YA!!!!
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Oct 21st, 2003 01:42 PM
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