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pslice
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I didn't get the ending

I didn't get the ending. Where were they in the eand? Is Neo really dead? Was that a new Matrix? If it wasn't how were the little girl, the chinese dude, the architect and the oracle still in existance? What did the oracle mean when she said to the little girl when she saw the sunrise "did you do this?" "Yes". Then what was with, "What about the ones who want out?" "They'll be freed". Freed from where? Was that just a new and 7th matrix? Will someone tell me please!

Nov 8th, 2003 08:16 PM

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the matrix was returned to how it was without smith, everyone (cept neo) was returned to thier normal non-smith slef, and the little girl made the sun rise/set for neo

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Nov 8th, 2003 08:18 PM

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o, thanx

Nov 8th, 2003 08:32 PM

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the oracle asked the architect if People want to leave the Matrix and persue the real world, is it ok. The Architect said "Of Course. Wut do u think i am, human?." This meant that he thinks that the humans are unfair. Since there wont be anymore sequals, we may never know if Neo is dead or not. From the looks of it in the real world, he's a goner. But i think that a part of him was left in the matrix and he is a part of it. Maybe he is a program of some sort, like when the Oracle talked about it in Reloaded. "There were programs made to watch over the trees, the sunrise and sunset. Theres programs runnin all over the place. The one's doing there job, doing wut there supposed to do are invisible. You'd never know they were here." There's an explanation for yu thumb up

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Nov 8th, 2003 11:29 PM

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SimplePriest
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I think he is dead. I'm pretty sure he wasn't breathing.

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Nov 8th, 2003 11:37 PM

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GangusGrievous
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ya, i think they tried to get the point across when they kept showing his face again and again, looking motionless.

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Nov 8th, 2003 11:38 PM

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but*All people in the forum look at him*...forget it.

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JediHDM
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eatingimpared> what were you going to say?
Simple> no, i do not think he is dead. His body glows, which, although dead, tells me that he is still alive, somewhere (in the matrix), and then when we see the sunrise, created by Sati, and Neo's glowing body, and they look the same, tells me he is alive, he is God in Matrix, just as he had to go to God of Machines...

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Nov 8th, 2003 11:58 PM

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JediHDM> ahhh right. Sorry, I believe more along the lines of what you just said, but I didn't explain myself well At All.

But, I think that his Body is dead (maybe... probably). However, I definitely do believe he is alive in the matrix.

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Nov 9th, 2003 12:03 AM

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Man... He brought the peace... The peace that both sides have wanted for so long (watch 2nd Renaissance if you haven't seen it)

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Nov 9th, 2003 12:04 AM

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2nd Renaissance?

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Nov 9th, 2003 12:10 AM

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So - lemme get this straight. If the machines can reset the matrix without neo's help {as evidenced by the matrix rebooting at the end of revo} then why the heck didn't they just delete all the smiths and wipe out humanity. They seemed to give in to peace a LITTLE too easily considering, y'know the 200 year war and all.

"The program Smith is beyond your control". Er, crappp!!!

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lol, that's kind of what I asked in another thread. The way I enterpreted the answer is that the Matrix resetting would be like a code say:

THEMATRIXRESET

Where Neo outside of the source would be like

THE ATRIXRESET

Without the M, resetting the matrix would be cataclismic, killing everyone plugged in.

Neo once brought to the source:

THEMATRIXRESET

It can then be reset.

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Nov 9th, 2003 12:13 AM

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xeous> The 2nd Renaissance is a part of the Animatrix. And I hate asking someone to "spend more money" and watch another thing from the Wachowski's if you didn't like revolutions. But I think it gives a lot to the background of the story. Actually, nevermind. If you want to, most of us here could give you (very) a synopsis (from memory, we've watched it so many times). So save some bucks, and ask any one of the regulars on this forum if you'd like smile

Noola> I believe that Neo has to return to the source in order for things to be reset right (similar to what xeous just said). I think that by him giving himself over the way he did, he escentially gave himself up to the machines (for them to send that Norton Anti-virus through him, and to be able to reset the Matrix). In this way, they've killed smith, which was necessary, and were able to refine and reset the matrix (like they normally do when he picks the door on the right, except for the picking of the people to start zion).

Did that help? Or was that more confusing erm

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Nov 9th, 2003 12:29 AM

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noola> the machines cannot reset the matrix without the code being reinserted. the machines did not reset the matrix, the black cat shoulda showed that...the matrix code was rewritten on a GRAND scale...it was not reset, it was reverted.

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Nov 9th, 2003 12:51 AM