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Matrix true/false?

I have a little question and a test for you all who think you are somehow related to the matrix movies. First off you have to sleep and have dreams. If not leave this forum. Next, whenever you dream you must first learn how to control your dreams. This is tricky. When you are in a dream adn you begin to notice that your are dreaming dont wake up. try to change it. There is a state in which you can be awake enough to change your dreams but still be asleep enough to believe your still in them. After many years of doing this the Matrix movies came out and blew my mind away. In my dreams i usually turn them into little episodes of me flying through the air carelessly without a respect to the laws of the universe. Or i just wreck havoc on all of mankind for man is the most worthless being in the universe.

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Jesus, i thorght i was the only one.


I learnt that before the matrix then tht freaked me out, how long u been doing it?

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Ah, yes! I knew there were other people in the world that had that freaky feeling after watching The Matrix for the very first time! It was because you can assert a certain amount of control over your dreams!
Awokenforever>I disagree about mankind being the worthless being in the universe, and besides why would you consider yourself worthless?


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I wish i could do that.
Vim/Shoota/Awokenforever/=The One in The dreamland.


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I think I did that once, can't remember though. I need to practice more. maybe, just maybe I can take over other people's dreams the I will be the One. Cool.


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yeah its great, Tell me guys how you first got control

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And this dream-talk is related to the Matrix Franchise in WHAT way?


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um, while this is interesting, it should be in the OTF more than the Matrix forum...

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You have failed to accomplish your task(in machine generated voice)
You have been terminated.


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*looks around in fear, then stands straight up, and blurs as he turns into an Agent* "I think it is you who are incorrect, I still contain purpose"


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Anymore of this? Do I close it or move it?
Ohhh, the questions. The choices.


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I've been lucid dreamer since I was 13 I am 25, and at this point I would consider myself a pro, so much in fact I remember more dreams than I do real memories, as if I am more in tune with my subconcious than my concious. Last night I was driving christopher reeves back to his house lol in my dream.

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Omega> I like this thread. Don't close, move somewhere.


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The way I learned to be lucid, I used to keep a dream journal along with my real journals, each morning or whenever I would wake up from a dream I would write it in my journal. I started notice patterns in my dreaming, it became all that I thought about until one day I realized I was dreaming and I no longer needed the journal to remember.

Last night for instance I was in this mall like place with this beautiful girl and I showed her that I could fly, and we begin to talk about the world (dream) that she lived in, she looked confused. I told her that her world was false, she didn't believe me, I told her she was a figment of my dreams, and that this was in fact a dream, then I showed her I could fly she looked a bit terrified at what I was saying to her.

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I AM quickly let me run out and shoot myself to see if i can dodge the bullets!!!!

and if i could have thes dreams why would u just talk to a confused looking girl u should just lay her out and ride her like a COWBOY big grin


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Kid Rock, go home and take your nasty picture with you.

Omega loosen up. Your not an authority figure. You are a little girl from nerverland who wants people to think she is cool. Quit acting like you have power and just let people talk.


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Awoken, in this forum, Omega IS an authority figure and does have power, so respect that.

BTW, this talk is highly inaccurate. Despite the metaphorical references in the Matrix to dreaming, the Matrix is NOT a dream and the rebels are not lucid. It is conceptually entirely different. To quote from the Matrix web site:

"...there are important disanalogies between Matrix-experience and dream-experience. First, in a dream, there is only your own mind involved. The Matrix must be, at a minimum, a group dream. I am arguing above that the fact that one mind is really interacting with other minds is critical to assessing the value of the Matrix reality. This complicates the apparently clear idea of controlling one's dream, since it is not simply one mind at work that can "alter" the images one is conscious of. I am not sure of the coherence of the hypothesis here. For example, when the young boy bends the spoon, Neo "sees" this. So the boy's control of his environment is perceivable both by the boy's mind and by Neo's. So he must be changing something that is, "in reality", in Neo's mind – namely, Neo's image of the spoon. But what if Neo straightens the spoon at the same time the boy bends it? Whose lucid dream will win out, and be perceived by the other minds? The one with the stronger will? Second, the "images" that are in your mind in the Matrix can, and regularly do, really kill people; that is, kill their bodies outside of the Matrix. Except in some bad horror movies, dream images cannot really kill you, or make you bleed. The difficulty of understanding how something which is a mere "image" is supposed to have this sort of effect seems therefore to cause some problems for calling the state of ordinary people in the Matrix "dreaming"."

Lucid dreaming is about altering experiences in your own mind- NOT about altering the perceptions of others. Remember, the Matrix may not be physical, but it IS real. In dreams you only deal with images- or more to the point, your own perceptions of images. The Matrix is far more than that. You are not affecting minds, you are affecting independant objects and things- virtual objects and things, but objects and things nonetheless- that everyone else observes independantly; lucid dreaming only deals with what you yourself feel and see.


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rite guys this is my kind of topic I dream strange things all the time


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