SSS+
Madara Uchiha (Juubi Jinchuuriki, two rinnegan)
SSS
Madara Uchiha (Juubi Jinchuuriki, one rinnegan)
Naruto Uzumaki (Yang sage chakra)
Obito (Juubi Jinchuuriki)
Sasuke Uchiha (Yin sage chakra)
SSS-
Juubi (Incomplete)
Might Gai (8 Gates)
SS+
Kakashi Hatake (Perfect Susano'o + Obito's chakra)
Madara Uchiha (living w/ Rinnegan + Wood + Sage mode)^
Naruto Uzumaki (Kurama partnership with Power Lending/Sage Chakra)
SS
Hashirama^
Madara Uchiha (EMS only / ET with Rinnegan + Wood)^
Naruto Uzumaki (Full Partnership)
Obito (Jinchuuriki Paths)^
SS-
Kurama (Full power)
Minato Namikaze (Jinchuuriki)
Nagato (Pain or Solo)
Sasuke Uchiha (EMS)
Tobirama (Edo)* (Tobirama is the only Edo that gets a separate ranking, because he has edo-specific jutsu like his giant repeat blow-up explosion)
S+
Itachi Uchiha
Izuna Uchiha
Gedō Mazō
Gyūki
Kabuto Yakushi (Post-Merged Sage)*
Killerbee
Minato Namikaze
Mito Uzumaki
Muu
Naruto Uzumaki (Kyuubi chakra mode)
Obito (Sharingan only)^
Onoki
Sakura Haruno (Yin seal)
Sasuke Uchiha (Complete Susano'o)
Second Mizukage
Third Raikage
Tobirama (alive)
Yagura
S
A (Raikage)
Chōjūrō (Mizukage)
Danzo (with implant jutsu)
Darui (Raikage)
Deidara
Deva Path (Yahiko/Pain)
Fū (Jinchuuriki)
Gaara (Kazekage)
Jiraiya
Kurotsuchi (Tsuchikage)
Han
Kakashi Hatake (Mastered Kamui)
Kakuzu
Kisame Hoshigaki (with Samehada)
Konan*
Kushina Uzumaki
Manda II
Mei Terumi
Might Gai (part 2)
Naruto Uzumaki (Sage Mode)*
Orochimaru*
Roshi
Sandaime Kazekage (3rd)
Sasori
Sasuke Uchiha (Orochimaru merge/mangekyo w/incomplete susano'o)
Shukaku
Tsunade
Utakata
Yondaime Kazekage (4th)
Yugito Nii
S-
Chiyo
Dan Katō
Danzo (without implant jutsu)
Darui
Fukasaku
Ginkaku
Hidan
Hiruzen Sarutobi (Old)
Kakashi Hatake (start of part 2)
Kimimaro Kaguya (healthy)
Kinkaku
Kisame Hoshigaki (without Samehada)
Kitsuchi
Mangetsu Hōzuki (Swords)
Mifune
Might Dai (8 Gates)
Sasuke Uchiha (start of part 2)
Shima
Shisui Uchiha
Zetsu (Black half or Complete)
*These characters have jutsu that require specific preparation that can't be done mid combat but increase their ability significantly, such as Edo Tensei, preparing multiple sage-mode charges, or readying unusual amounts of explosive tags.
^These characters have high-level Biju control of tailed beasts outside of their bodies.
I'd like to point out that Madara gained a boost in power after absorbing the Shinju, and from then on even with one eye was a fair bit stronger than Naruto and Sasuke individually.
This is probably the biggest thing about your lists I disagree with. I'm not sure if you just heavily underestimate Hashirama and Madara, or overestimate Naruto, but at this point he really was solidly below either of them--especially Madara.
He honestly may deserve to be a little higher.
I'm not sure I'd rate his Edo self > his alive self. While he did have Edo specific jutsu, Madara noted that he still couldn't bring out his full power. On top of that, Tobirama himself could use edo tensei on others to use the same techniques.
His chakra level was directly compared to them at one point, *plus* he had the awesome utility technique of 'powering up an army.'
Oh, he needs an *, doesn't he? And I think being able to use some special jutsu himself is a bit more of an advantage, since the final set of Edo was supposed to be pretty darn near full power.
Oh yea, while old's at S-, perhaps alive or edo should be at S.... and while hype may suggest even better, that's all we really saw evidence for, the best move he did was
Nagato's still pretty solidly behind the people in SS, though. Tiers are big.
In terms of pure chakra, yeah, but that isn't the only factor that equates into battle prowess. Sure, his ability to lend chakra is useful, but only if he has an army.
Hashirama was able to defeat a full-powered Kurama with Susano'o armor, as well as EMS Madara, simultaneously. Similarly to Naruto, he could take on multiple Tailed Beasts at once and humble them.
In terms of sheer battle prowess, Hashirama's Wood Human is the equivalent of Perfect Susano'o, and with Sage Mode activated he can summon the Thousand-Hand statue, which dwarfs the Kyuubi and can use all 5 chakra natures. Even his less powerful techniques like Deep Forrest Emergence are extremely effective, especially considering the pollen.
And to top it off, he has vastly better Taijutsu skills and his seal-less regenerative jutsu. He's should at the very least be on Naruto's tier.
And Madara post-resurrection? The dudes on another level, tbh.
*Oh yea, while old's at S-, perhaps alive or edo should be at S.... and while hype may suggest even better, that's all we really saw evidence for, the best move he did was
Er, *young* or Edo!
Support powers are normally factored in. And he doesn't really need an army, just *any* allies, really. Suddenly Kakashi becomes a kamui spammer, Lee a living bullet, etc. etc..
How is 8th Gate Gai below incomplete Juubi, Juubito and 1-eyed Madara? Incomplete Juubi and Juubito wouldn't last a fraction of a second and we already saw what Gai did to Madara.
Also full BM+Sage Mode Naruto (assuming that's what you meant by Kurama partnership with Power Lending/Sage Chakra) shouldn't be on the same tier as Hashirama or Madara. He should be one below, imo.
I think Itachi should be moved up a tier as well. The rest of the guys in his tier wouldn't really have a shot at beating him and I think he can take care of Kurama even without the controlling business. He was also clearly stronger than EMS Sasuke going by the Kabuto fight.
Shisui is also placed waaaaay too low for sure. He was a MS user (which alone warrants him being far above the likes of Orochimaru and Chiyo) and possessed the ultimate Genjutsu. At least S+
Last thing I'd like to point out is that Haku is waaaaay too high. I mean Sharingan Sasuke was holding his own against him.
Other than those your list seems pretty solid.
Last edited by TheTyrant on Nov 29th, 2014 at 08:46 AM
Pretty sure the Juubi placement is due to Q99 alphabetizing the list rather than actually ranking them in strength.
Well considering he can output just as much power as them along with being able to boost up an entire army would warrant his place.
Itachi is pretty good where he is, 3rd Raikage, Minato, and Tobirama would give him trouble in an actual fight and, Izanami aside,Sage Mode Kabuto had counters to all three of his MS abilities.
Yes, everyone within each ranking is alphabetical.
Precisely ranking everyone would be too subjective, so rough categories is what we've got.
He has the best support jutsu in the series, that requires no-prep, that multiplies the power of literally any other technique or fighter.
And again, tiers are big. He's above the SSs in usefulness.
Because Sasuke can use his best attacks all day without worry, and has things like Shotgun-Amaterasu and so on, and have Susano'o up *constantly*, while Itachi can only use Amaterasu a limited amount of times in a fight, and can only use susano'o for a short time.
EMS definitely helps with increased stamina and no blindness, but Itachi's Susanoo would violate EMS Sasuke's Susanoo. His genjustsu is stronger, and has techs that Sasuke doesn't have, like Izanami.
If you forced them to kill each other, Itachi would likely come out on top. I of course don't think Sasuke needs to be moved, but maybe Itachi could go up.
Her list doesn't account for only combat or match-ups though.
EMS Sasuke also made his Susanoo big enough to cover Naruto's Bijuu mode, and that was without Naruto's chakra amping him.
Why does Hamura get ranked in the same tier as Hagoromo in your opinion?
Kakashi went from being able to teleport kunais, to teleporting Bijuu.
The SA when in Bird formation also cut through the Juubi's skin, which could withstand Bijuu bombs.
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Last edited by Demonic Phoenix on Nov 29th, 2014 at 11:50 PM
Yes. And Sasuke has a lot more ranged moves and anti-group moves, like the Susano'o bow and amaterasu shotgun.
Itachi's one of the deadliest one-on-one fighters, but Sasuke has a whole bunch of great jutsu for other purposes, as well as being quite quite strong one on one.
I thought the idea was that they sync'd their chakras and that was the reason he was able to do it in the first place. Either way you can clearly see the red aura still around him in the anime, so he's being amped.
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