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smith vs darth vader

smith as he overtook the oracle in his most powerful form vs darth vader in his prime.


fight takes place in the matix who wins this?

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The force may be too powerful for Agent Smith.


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The force may be too powerful for Agent Smith.
smith is the force in the matrix. hes way to powerful as the oracle. way to powerful. vader cant even beat obi wan. vader gets waxed.

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there is no way in my mind vader can take out smith. hes far to powerful.


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Another Matrix vs Star Wars thread?
Smith can beat Neo and Yoda can beat Vader so how the hack can Vader beat Smith?

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Another Matrix vs Star Wars thread?
Smith can beat Neo and Yoda can beat Vader so how the hack can Vader beat Smith?
i guess vader cant. smith is to much. vader barley survived his first encounter with dooku or his first fight with obi wan.

someone was always there to save his ass.

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Smith is equal to or > Neo > Yoda > Vader.

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Smith is equal to or > Neo > Yoda > Vader.
yeah i dont know about smith being equal to or greater than neo. i think the only way neo was to win and trick smith was to give up and create the illsuion that smith had won. i think he was setting smith up.


one on one i think neo could have beaten him if thats all he had to do. he couldnt truly defeat smith becuz he copied everyone in the system.

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Neo lost to Smith at the end of the movie(without the help of other Smiths), Smith lost at last because he copied Neo.

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Neo lost to Smith at the end of the movie(without the help of other Smiths), Smith lost at last because he copied Neo.
yes i know what happened. but if neo beat smith it would accomplish nothing. the other smiths would overwhelm him. he let him copy him becuz that was the one way to truly defeat him.



do u get what i am saying now.

he let him believe he beat him so as to fool him into defeating him the only way he truly could.

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I know we have the same oppinion.smile

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I know we have the same oppinion.smile
u agree as well that neo was holding back and could have beaten him.

thats cool. becuz it only makes sense that even if neo won it would have won him one victory and not a damn thing.

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u agree as well that neo was holding back and could have beaten him.

thats cool. becuz it only makes sense that even if neo won it would have won him one victory and not a damn thing.
No! I never said neo was holding back and could have beaten Smith. Smith overpowered neo in the movie. Smith takes over the whole matrix and I believe no one can beat him, include neo. wink

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No! I never said neo was holding back and could have beaten Smith. Smith overpowered neo in the movie. Smith takes over the whole matrix and I believe no one can beat him, include neo. wink
i think neo let him win becuz it was the only way to destroy smith. neo could have defeated the oracle smith as neo was the anomaly but this victory would have been hollow and won nothing. neo could have been overwhelmed right after defeating this smith. neo had to sell his defeat.

which he did for the only way to delete the program smith.

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There's no way neo can defeat smtih unless the way he did in the movie. In hand to hand fight, smith BEATS neo(watch the movie again). After a long fighting, neo realized he could no way to defeat smith, so he let smith to copy him, the ONLY way he can destroy smith. Also, if other smiths come to join the fight, neo can no way beat them.

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There's no way neo can defeat smtih unless the way he did in the movie. In hand to hand fight, smith BEATS neo(watch the movie again). After a long fighting, neo realized he could no way to defeat smith, so he let smith to copy him, the ONLY way he can destroy smith. Also, if other smiths come to join the fight, neo can no way beat them.
yes i know this was the only way to truly defeat him.

but i think if neo wanted to he could have beaten the oracle copying smith. he pretended to be hopeless and was holding back imo.

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Maybe he was holding back at the last minute of their fight, but in general, he wasn't holding back at tall! If he hold back at the beginning, he can just let smith to beat him and copy him in the first 3 mins. And there's no way he could beat all other smiths at the same time. Neo is at best equal to smith.

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Maybe he was holding back at the last minute of their fight, but in general, he wasn't holding back at tall! If he hold back at the beginning, he can just let smith to beat him and copy him in the first 3 mins. And there's no way he could beat all other smiths at the same time. Neo is at best equal to smith.
he was going blow for blow with smith. but i feel neo had to sell a defeat. he couldnt just let smith copy him or he could really know it was a trick. he had to sell despair and hoplelessness.

neo>smith one on one.

hes the anomaly.

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Have you watch the movie? Smith was also the anonaly! He was the opposite of neo. Smith must be at least equal to neo one on one, have you watch the movie? Smith was said to be Neo's equal! He was the only person who can beat neo. By the end of the movie after smith has taken control of the matrix, he may be even a little above neo. Smith's ability was beyond that of neo, he can set the weather and place. I see no reason neo was holding back. I can say smith was holding back too! If you still arguing neo was holding back and neo> smith, just go watch the movie again. I won't argue with you anymore.

Smith>neo.

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Smith is equal to or > Neo > Yoda > Vader.

yep

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