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the heir of slytherin

Rachel and I had a discussion, againwink
The heir of Slytherin, is only Tom Marvolo Riddle the heir of slytherin, or is everyone who has the same blood as salazar slytherin able to open the chamber?
i said only tom was able, he hasnt only the right blood, he was the ehir, the other's arnt able to. but rach said evry1 who has the some blood as slytherin is able to opüen the chamber.
what do you think?


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I think everyone that can speak parseltongue (the snake language) can open the chamber.. and.. well.. Zalazar Slytherin could speak parseltongue..

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i agree with daeri on that one. it's not necessarily what's in your blood, but the language you speak in order to open the chamber. That's why Ginny was able to open it, because Tommy was speaking parsel-tongue THROUGH Ginny.


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but why would the writing say "the heir" if the blood isn't important and any parseltong could open it....
that doesn't make sense....in my opinion!

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totally valid opinion, but then how did Ginny open the chamber of secrets unless she is one of the heirs herself? Unless you're suggesting that Riddle transfused his blood into her body. I just wanna know...who's blood does she use to write all those messages on the wall? i mean, she would have to like slit her wrists in order to get that much blood to write that many messages that are as long as they were with such large characters. Anyone wanna try and help explain that to me?


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the messages? she wrote those messages with blood from the roosters!

i asked that very same question and phoenix said, that she opened it, 'cause she was being posessed!

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i think its like in steven spielbergs series "taken", do you know it?
there are aliens since the fifties (area 51) and they make a genetical experiment: a mixture of human/alien... not every generation has special talents/abilities, but around 40 percent... what i wanted to say, i think, every 2nd/3rd generation has the ability to speak parsel.


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......well, or Tom is one of the RARE heirs of slytherin, that found out, THAT they are heirs.
oomph laughing


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so, ya think as well, that tom is related to salazar slytherin?

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Parseltongue is a VERY rare talent, and the Heir's of Slytherin are the only wizards known to speak it. Voldemort ((Tom Riddle)) can speak it because he is Slytherin's heir. Ginny opened the Chamber because Tom used her body - he had no physical form, and Ginny was not involved in anything, Tom's spirit/memory did everything. Harry can speak it because, when Voldemort attacked Harry when Harry was a baby, part of Voldemorts power ((eg the ability to speak parsel tongue)) was transferred to Harry


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oops forgot about the roosters...i guess i was just thinking about the movie since i read book 2 a couple of years ago. And just to Quadriple check....so your saying it has nothing to do with blood huh Phoe? well that's what i think, it's all the language and not the blood.


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why, are the heir's of slytherin the only ones known, who know how to do it!

it sais: slytherin prefered it, if his pupils can speak it, so they couldn't be the only ones...

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yeah, i know it's the parsel...
but only the heir of slytherin can spek parsel, cant he? and harry can cause tom attacked him.


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how could slytherin prefered it, when his pupils could do it, when he and his relatives are the only ones , who can speak it???

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heirs of slytherin are the only ones to speak it because no-one else wants to speak it ((as it is a sign of a dark wizard)) so the talent has all but disappeared


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but, it is not, like the slytherins, arev the only ones, who wanna be evil, there are plenty other evil wizards, so how did the talent disapear, i know, rare was it all the time...

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it disappeared because it's not something that is taught....it's something that is inherited. I don't know if any of us have enough information to say that ONLY slytherin heirs are parseltongues and the same goes for saying all Parseltongues are slytherin heirs. The only thing we know is that it IS really rare and that Voldy and Salizar both spoke it. The rest has been left unsaid for idiots like us to wonder about...


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Re: the heir of slytherin

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Originally posted by Candy
Rachel and I had a discussion, againwink
The heir of Slytherin, is only Tom Marvolo Riddle the heir of slytherin, or is everyone who has the same blood as salazar slytherin able to open the chamber?
i said only tom was able, he hasnt only the right blood, he was the ehir, the other's arnt able to. but rach said evry1 who has the some blood as slytherin is able to opüen the chamber.
what do you think?


If you look into it deeply enough, one could say that technically, Riddle isn't the Heir of Slytherin, because he has Slytherin blood only on his mothers side.

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Re: Re: the heir of slytherin

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If you look into it deeply enough, one could say that technically, Riddle isn't the Heir of Slytherin, because he has Slytherin blood only on his mothers side.


How exactly does that NOT make him the heir to Slytherin?


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How exactly does that NOT make him the heir to Slytherin?


Well, technically the blood line (in the old European way of reckoning these things) is only passed through the male line, innit?

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