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Lord Andres
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Shelob's poison stab

How come Frodo got poised when shelob stabed him? he was wearing his mithril shirt

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I'm wondering if in the book, Frodo was bitten since spiders don't sting, they bite.
That is a good point (no pun intended lol) I can't explain it


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In the book, he gets staded in the back of the neck from what i can remember..... his mithril shirt doesnt cover the back of his neck!


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that doesn't explain the movie though...maybe it slipped through the links? doubtful.


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he doesnt get stinged to from what i can recall in the books,

best person to ask would be Cyn/Exa

Hey Lord andres, long time no see

Discos - its a good question though


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yesh...but the movie messes lots of stuff up....

I do think that it was his neck that got bit!!!

Spiders can sting in middle earth, they are fantasy so they can do anything they want yes


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he gets stung in the back of the shoulder in the book and in the film its just above his mithril


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above his methril, it looked liked below it


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look when he is in cirith ungol you can see the mark


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how? you never see his back in cirith ungol? just hte cave troll and nazgul marks on his front...


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read it more carefully stick out tongue


in the book its the back....in the film its the front


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no, in the film, he got stabbed in the back!!! I know!! I just watched it 4 times in the past 4 days !!


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in the book he got stabbedo n the shoulder i belive, and in teh moive it was in the middle/upper back!!!!


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no its not!

stabby thing comes down frodo facing the other way, frodo turns round and down it comes and stab. go watch again stick out tongue


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He was looking the other way, then Shelob came from above and stabbed him in the back!!!!! you go watch again!!! stick out tongue


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omg that is not what happened....the shelob makes a noise which frodo turns round and then her thing comes down then he turns round again and she gets him in the right shoulder.


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she does not stab him twice!!!!!

ANd i know she stabbed him from behind.

*coughisstubbornandevenifsheknowthorisrightshewill
notstoparguingcough*


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i didnt say she stabbed him twice

and you obviously don't know because you are wrong stick out tongue

go watch it right now.


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Sorry...pip-foot..sad But I'll side with Thor here..In the movie..Frodo really did turn around when he was hearing some noises...but while we as audience were already seeing Shelob's head sneaking in so that she could sting Frodo already...(while we were saying.."OMG!! Frodo..turn around..turn around!! WATCH OUT!!!!)...Frodo indeed turned around to see Shelob...but it was too late..and Shelob stung him...IN FRONT. Above the mithril territory of protection...(if there's such a location..stick out tongue ) But you know what I mean..stick out tongue


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yeah, Frodo briefly saw Shelob b/f he was stabbed


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hey, maybe in the movie he took off the mithril cuz it was too heavy?? b/c of the ring? maybe?


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: sad I know i am wrong, but i hates being wrong and i loves arguing

I cant...at my dads office...

i dont like the Shelob scene anyways...i usually fastforward it so i have time to watch the good scenes with Pip and merry and aragron over and over and over again stick out tongue

YEah1!!!! shadowy is on :eek eek! eek! big grin


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not likely. he wasn't carrying anything and besides it's light


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NYAH!


yeah you heard me NYAH!!! stick out tongue


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stick out tongue meanie Thor!!!!!

I don't care. In my world he got stabbed from behind and you blew up and died so i am always right stick out tongue

*pulls out take over of KMC plans she made with Kit...remembers just how to get rid of THor shifty*


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Mwuahahaha bring it


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but then everyone would know the secret plan and Kit and i could no longer take over...


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then nyah i say, NYAH!!!!


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ok... confused


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stick out tongue and i say CURSE YOU stick out tongue

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: and tie you on top of a mountain with a nazgul ripping your insides out every hour, and an eagle coming to save you, but turning away right before it gets to you!

And that is just a TASTE of what is in the great and terrible plan of evil!!!1 Mwahhhhhahhh


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whoa, who r u saying that to?


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ooooooh ropes stick out tongue you kinky little laughing j/k


i care not what you do stick out tongue


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Thor!!!

I have nothing against you ilvorlando bloom....


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lol laughing That one was mostly Kit's idea, but i added the nazgul part.... stick out tongue


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the pride you shall no longer have because all the KMC members (who are not being punished) are riding on the eagles and lauging at your misery stick out tongue


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Thorondors correct

Discos - deal with it, eagles are just very wise


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*changes mind and decides discos can join Thor in punishment*

:P


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ok, so what is going on? im confused... come to think of it, im always confused. wacko


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Would you appreciate an extra opinion?

Book: back of neck
Film: front.

You see the scar when he's in the tower. He also has the Mithril Shirt at that point, because the two orcs argue over it in the tower. If you look, the shirt is (rather stupidly in my opinion) designed/cut in a certain shape, almost in a low neckline. It doesn't protect as it really should. That's why the shirt didn't protect him.

It's silly I know. And I'm sure you didn't want me to butt in here but, oh well, I have.

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hehe pip-foot


nyah i say....NYAH! stick out tongue


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