Gotham in Batman (1989) is very artistic and fill with more fantasy and imagination. Gotham in Begins looks very industrial and it resembles Metropolis quite a bit. Both were equally better.
Burtons Gotham seemed very cold. It was dank, yes, but it always seeemed like it was freezing.
Begins Gotham just seemed real. What I really liked about it was the apparent "levels" it had. From the sky, it seemed powerful and strong, with skyscrapers looking like they were the only buildings that mattered, but at the bottom it had a horrible, deadly, street level that just seemed hostile and scary.
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someone in another thread questioned an opera house being in the middle of a scary area. specifically, how could they step out of the opera house into a place that looked like gang/drugs central? could someone from new york check in on this? i am kinda assuming, by the way, that gotham is basically new york by another name (gotham is a real world nickname for NYC, anyway).
very much liked this one. real real real! I do have an affection for parts of the Forever movie, but the city was.....hideous. Begins was hideous but in all the right ways, a real hideousness. no neon paint on the bums or the buildings, no silly giant statues, just real people and real buildings and real batman.
The opera house being in a bad area weird?! Go TO Detroit!! The Fisher Theater, the Fox and Masonic Temple are all in Bad areas..then again most of Detroit is a bad area. Did you know that crime was so high..they had to invent a whole other court to handle the load because it was slowing down the process? Recorders Court.... that's where all the arraignments happen. I actually thought ever city had one untill my US Gov class in College
And by the way...Detroit has a monorail system. So nasty cities do have things like those. It's called the people mover.
I like both cities for what they were to each film...one realistic and one a gothic fantasy.
Gotham in 1989 Batman looked more like a prop piece from far away...it was hazy, gloomy, and sorta Translyvaniash......or GOTHIC. With gargoyles (which Batman hooked JOker's leg to) and cathedrals, etc....resembles the cartoon more. But closeup it had some real-life-looking areas like during Joker's parade scene, or City Hall, etc. Batman REturns it got crazier in terms of the theatrical imagery...snow, fog, etc.
Batman Begins is definitely more realistic IMO...something you can actually see in the world we live today. Both served equally well for the movies.
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The reason why the Batman Begins Gotham is somthing you can actually see in the world we live today is because it is somthing in the world we live today. I'm really partial to the Batman Begins Gotham because I'm from Chicago and thats what they used. It was awesome how they took a real place and changed it to be Gotham. Kinda like Spider-Man although its still New York in Spider-Man. The island where the fear gas was released is'nt real and the trains were differnt then the real ones but everything else was Chicago. When Batman went throw lower wacker drive in the Batmobile and stoped the cops I could'nt help but think of the Blues Brothers. Best Gotham ever. Chicago is Gotham!
Everything in Batman Begins is just to damn SWEET!
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i really agree with the 89 gotham feeling dank and freezing. it just gave off that vibe, the way it toned its colors and showed peoples breath when they spoke.
I like both of them I think they were both fitting for the movie they were in.
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