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Ironman and Venom vs Steel Superman and Lobo
Igot this from my marvel vs dc cards it was ironman vs steel venom vs lobo. I onestly think Iroman and Venom win this one, what are your thoughts. Steel supes and the main man lobo vs shellhead and a neutral symbiote.
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Did everybody forget Lobo Tha Main Man can't be killed Heaven wont take him and Hells afraid he'll take over (been kicked outa both). No matter how many times they "get rid of him" he'll find a new and inventive way to dispose of any who oppose, not even an issue.
Meh, asuming it's just a contest to see who can get the first knockout/kill, I'd say Ironman and Venom. Steel is pretty badass, but I'm not optomistic about his fight with IM. I think Venom just wins over Lobo because he's too friggin hard to hit.
Registered: Oct 2004
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Venom's the weakest link here, even though Steel is generally inexpeirenced. Iron man would have to pull out some honest to goodness ingenuity. If he tried that Hulkbuster crap on Lobo he'd find himself going down fast.
Venom would be deleted and killed from Superman's heat vision.Lobo would murder Iron Man when Tony is dealing with Steel, Lobo would leap on IM's back and pull of his head then use it to play foot-ball with the Man Of Steel, end of debate.This is a battle the marvel guys can't win.Venom can't win over Lobo, Lobo can make Supes feeling pain, Lobo would murder Venom.And really bad, also Steel is underrated here's a list of his armor's abilities:
Enhanced Strength: As noted, Steel is a normal human being who is in excellent physical condition, and who engages in intensive, regular exercise. Without his armor he can lift approximately 650 pounds. With his powered armor increasing his strength as much as 15 times, Steel's enhanced strength is quite considerable. He has been seen to lift and throw for short distances objects weighing as much as 5 tons. It would seem that greater strength would be possible, but would require re-engineering the support structures of the suit. As it is, the servo-motor systems that power the suit seem to be able to function at peak efficiency for approximately 2-3 days without any need for recharge. The current source of power is also unknown, but believed to already be patented by Dr. Irons.
Resistance to Injury: The suit's ability to impart a resistance to physical injury was quite considerable before the addition of the inertial dampening field. It is, theoretically, composed of molynbeum steel-titanium alloy infrastructure, overlayed with ridges of plated steel to reinforce vital areas. Small arms fire was generally not a threat but larger firearms could prove dangerous. All of the suits have performed admirably considering the opponents. These include the Cyborg Superman and Metallo, both considered to be highly dangerous opponents, even for Superman.
Magno-Gravimetric Flight Capability: With what are probably his greatest creations, the flight protocols for his armor are every engineers dream. His flight is made possible by two means. The creation of a limited anti-graviton/magno-repulsion field, the source for this field is currently unknown. This field polarizes him against the Earth's gravitational pull. This field is not enough, however to allow flight but does allow for the thrusters housed in his boots to give him the semblance of flight. (And perhaps under the right conditions to leap farther than normal). The distance that can be travelled before refueling is unknown but Steel has made a documented trip of at least 1,500 miles before touching down again. It has been determined, by observation, that Steel can reach speeds just short of the speed of sound, which is 700+ miles per hour. Since the power source for his suit is currently unknown, STAR Labs cannot further determine how the suit's flight capabilities function at a detailed level. Further analysis will continue.
External Weapon: Voice Activated/Controllable Hammer: Steel's original hammer was just a physical extension of his strength, to which, he did use to great effect. In recent battles, Steel has found himself outclassed by his metahuman opponents and decided to increase the technology found in his hammer. His current hammer has the ability to increase it's kinetic energy the further away it is thrown. At a distance up to 20 yards, it can stop a car, 30 yards, a truck, 60 yards, a tank, at distances greater than 60 yards, its destructive capacity rivals that of Superman for damage dealing capabilities. The hammer is also voice controlled and its flight is programmable.
Inertial Damage Field with Hammer: This hammer can also store the energy it has gathered along its flight path within the kinetic field and release it on contact with a target, even if its flight is interrupted by a command. It is unknown how long this device can store such energy. This device appears to have the ability to temporarily disrupt temporal/kinetic energy in a localized field and manipulated it for limited effects such as energy transfer based on a linear distance travelled. We suspect that such technology is alien in origin and its owner and manufacturer bear watching because of it. Its power source is also unknown.
Registered: Aug 2004
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Well, Venom's got him beat in physical strength and probably wouldn't be getting hit by too many laser beams with his spider sense. Steel's suit is open face isn't it?
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And if were talking about the new lobo whose immune to all psychic attacks and can grow copies of himself with every drop of blood... Lobo would win all of this.
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well, current venom is a monsterous form and for all we know may be as strong and durable as two venom's (as the story would suggest) so he may not be as outclassed here as most would like him to be.
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Steel's physical strenght was sufficient to hurt General Eiling, that possess the body of Shaggy Man, it means invulnerability near to Superman's level.Also Venom's spider sense is MORE under that of Spider-Man, maybe around 30%, cause he got hit in lacks of attention so much times that if i starts to make a list it would have no end.
Venom's is not a powerhouse.He's a poor Class 11/12 Tons of strenght.
I have fun when i see guys on this forum arguing he can give troubles to the Juggernaut with brute strenght, cause Cain Marko IS a heavyweight, a grandaddy in terms of brute force.Venom is just a sociopath with a symbiote.
Steel's armor isn't open in face, it has same resistance in all the points, and can grant him to survive in space.Steel's hammer thrown at distances greater than 60 yards, its destructive capacity rivals that of Superman for damage dealing capabilities. The hammer is also voice controlled and its flight is programmable.
That means Venom is powned.
Venom is overrated on this boards.
Registered: Aug 2004
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Well excuuuse me. Except for the mysterious duribility and the hammer, the way you described Steel's suit made it sound like a piece of crap.
Maxing out at 5 tons AND being able to hurt Superman level characters with his fists makes no sense and I don't like Steel nearly enough to be bothered to double check. Five tons is a drop in the bucket for Hulk and Superman fans will still say Hulk won't dent him.
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A sociopath poor ex-journalist wearing symbiot alien that likes chocolate and has a white spider on the costume sounds crap too.
You cannot just accept Venom is outmatched.And Steel is capable of more than Class 5 Strenght, he's not just the brick guy that always go head to head with the enemies, he's smart, a great ingegneer and tactician, one of the greatest of DC Earth.For going fist to fist JLA possess Supes, WW, Captain Marvel(Shazam), Orion etc.
Registered: Aug 2004
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Guy, I don't even like Venom. Throwing 5 ton objects a short distance is very unimpressive. He must rely on hammerthrowing a lot to do damage to Superman level villians.
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Jan 23rd, 2005 03:45 PM
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