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Gladiator vs Darksied

lets get the fight started

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Darksied....that omega beam anit nuthin ta F**k with.

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Omega Beams won't work in the Marvel Universe ^^

Not certain if they will even work on a Marvel character, since there is no "Source" in the Marvel Universe.

He tried that with Galactus. Galactus smirked and put him dowwwwn.

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i think it didn't work on galactus since he is A cosmic entity with way more power that darksied can imagine.

But his omega beam should work on spider-man and other peeps and superheros.

I think it was because galactus is at a high cosmic level


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i think it didn't work on galactus since he is A cosmic entity with way more power that darksied can imagine.


Uh, no, considering John Byrne opined that they are about equal in terms of power.

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are you saying darksied is equal to galactus?


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yeah Never is that what your saying?

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Do either of you know exactly who Darkseid is? Are you kidding? LoL, yes he is equal -- and in many eyes, quite a bit more powerful.

Remember that DC characters are, on average, more powerful than your average Marvel characters.

A quote from a bio I dug through:

"Though he often acts through his agents, Darkseid is one of the universe's most powerful beings, possessing near limitless strength and invulnerability. Darkseid's most terrifying power is the "Omega Effect" -- potent beams of energy projected from his eyes that can lock on and trace their chosen targets. When the beams do inevitably connect, they produce one of any number of effects, ranging from disentigration to teleporting the target across time and space."

I mean...LoL, have you read any of the older comics with Darkseid in it? Galactus consumes planets; Darkseid has rearranged an entire cosmos.

And no, you must not know Darkseid. They have been writing him differently.

Re: Marvel having "big dogs," they have about 20. DC has about 130.

Easily.

And I said that JOHN BYRNE, who has written both the Galactus and Darkseid characters, also said that, in HIS opinion, they are about equal.

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hey! I know Darkseid and I don't completely agree with your statement...marvel got some "big dogs" too.

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silver surfer will distroy darksied how is he a match for galactus (someone who created creatures that will eat darksied for lunch)

Galactus has the power to distroy the universe , and darksied got his ass kicked by superman this is too funny can you please explain how his on glactus level)

Even if he was 100 times stonger than superman he will still be no match for galactus.

Do you even know who galactus is.

Yes darksied is one bad mofo but is he a roach compare to galactus

expalin how darksied is equal to galactus other than darkseid is a GOD lmao


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Yeah you go kgkg if Darksied struggles against Supes how could he beat big G.

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Silver Surfer could take Darkseid if he wasn't a pacifist. Orion and Superman give Darkseid trouble. Surfer is miniscule compared to a full powered Galactus.

The Omega Beams would be the deciding factor between Darkseid and Gladiator (basically Pre-Crisis Supes with a mohawk and superiority complex). If they work, Darkseid wins easily. If they don't, maybe Darkseid will miraculously for no apparent reason gain the knowledge that Gladiator has a weakness to a rare form of radiation like the Hulk did when they fought (even though Gladiator flies through space under his own power unprotected and through stars, wormholes, stargates, time, etc, is constantly bombarded with known and unknown types of radiation, and has no ill effects).

So Darkseid should win due to Gladiator's obscure 'weakness'.


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LoL, someone must be snorting Ajax.

I guess that's why Surfer chose to battle Orion instead of Darkseid in the crossover (only frame of reference that we have)? LoL @ Surfer could take Darkseid.

This is why Darkseid has rearranged entire universes? Darkseid also has a planets FULL of parademons -- forgot about those? Forgot about his Mother Box? His Boom Tubes? The more I think about this, the funnier it gets.

Darkseid losing to Superman is absolutely horrific writing (to hell with the Super Friends version -- let's talk KIRBY'S Darkseid). The only person in the DCU to ever stand up to The Omega Effect is Doomsday...because he cannot die.

Darkseid is a GOD. Silver Surfer is a HERALD (or former herald).

Are you kidding me? He raises his eyebrow and worlds start to tremble!

*shrug* LoL, whatevs.

And no, Gladiator cannot defeat Darkseid. The Hulk stomped the living hell out of GLadiator already.

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Gladiator could Never and I mean Never...never,never, never ,never, never, never, never, never beat Darkseid...it anit never gonna happen!

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Orion can take Darkseid. He's preordained to do it, right?


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i think Darksied kick Orion's ass


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usually big D does...but one day Orion beat his poppy Darkie...was Darksied sick that day....I don't know but 9 times out of 10 darksied beats Orion...

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The prophesy was that Orion would kill Darkseid one day. I can't remember the exact comic though.


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Darkseid would win.


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LoL, someone must be snorting Ajax.

I guess that's why Surfer chose to battle Orion instead of Darkseid in the crossover (only frame of reference that we have)? LoL @ Surfer could take Darkseid.

This is why Darkseid has rearranged entire universes? Darkseid also has a planets FULL of parademons -- forgot about those? Forgot about his Mother Box? His Boom Tubes? The more I think about this, the funnier it gets.

Darkseid losing to Superman is absolutely horrific writing (to hell with the Super Friends version -- let's talk KIRBY'S Darkseid). The only person in the DCU to ever stand up to The Omega Effect is Doomsday...because he cannot die.

Darkseid is a GOD. Silver Surfer is a HERALD (or former herald).

Are you kidding me? He raises his eyebrow and worlds start to tremble!

*shrug* LoL, whatevs.

And no, Gladiator cannot defeat Darkseid. The Hulk stomped the living hell out of GLadiator already.


If we're talking about Pre-Crisis Darkseid than yes. That was basically Darkseid as Kirby intended. However, since this isn't Pre-Crisis Darkseid, he ain't on a hungry Galactus' level.

Full powered Galactus (ex: destroying Galaxies in his battle with full powered Tyrant) > Pre-Crisis Darkseid
Starving Galactus > Post Crisis Darkseid

In that crossover, a hungry Galactus took on Apokolip forces and Darkseid. Darkseid's Omega Effect didn't work on Galactus because Galan an essential to the universe and more powerful as well. The OE can't kill anything that an essential to the universe, therefore, couldn't kill Galactus. After that attack, Galactus sent Darkseid flying. Darksied and his forces couldn't stop a hungry Galactus; hence, Darkseid is not equal to Galactus.

And despite what Byrne said, this crossover and other feats by both characters says otherwise.

In that same crossover, Silver punked Orion, while Darkseid actually was hurting Surfer with his Omega Beams (not Omega Effect).

Gladiator wins 3/10.

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