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Is JEHOVAH the real name of God?
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JEHOVAH: The Real Name of God?
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JEHOVAH: The Real Name of God?

Yes or No. And why?

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No...Elohim

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The four letter tetragrammaton (Greek, 'four letters') is the true name of the god of the Hebrew scriptures. Its pronunciation is considered to have great power, and is never spoken aloud, save for once a year, in the inner sanctuary of the Temple during the rites of Yom Kippur. In written scripture, it is given the vowel markings and pronunciation of the word Adonai, lord, leading to the common Christian mispronunciation of the name as Jehovah. In Judaism, the tetragrammaton is commonly referred to as "Hashem," The Name.

One theory regarding the disuse of the Tetragrammaton is that the Jewish taboo on its pronunciation was so strong that the original pronunciation may have been lost somewhere in the first millennium. Since then, many scholars (particularly Christians) have sought to reconstruct its original pronunciation. For example, circa 1518 Christian theologians introduced the pronunciation Yehovah, which is generally held to be implausible, based on the written form that was used to indicate to the reader of the Bible in Hebrew to pronounce it "Adonai".


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JEHOVAH, I am, God, Father, etc. Countless names, one person. Is there a problem with this, Jury?


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Elohim was the first word for God(s) in the OT. Some have even said that it was a neutral or even feminine form of god(s)...Not sure on that, but I do know it was FIRST mentioned and that it was plural.

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Well if were going to get specific, then everyone knows it's RA.

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agreed....


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OK ok...Zeus .....He was more colorful....Many more stories.

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OK ok...Zeus .....He was more colorful....Many more stories.
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Elohim is not plural. In Genesis 1:1, Elohim is paired with the verb bara, which is roughly, "to create." The verb bara is in the singular. Elohim must be singular to pair with bara.

It's similar to the english phenomenom of words like moose, or goose. Elohim can refer to pluarlity or singularity, just as these words can. It is the context of the surrounding words which determines the pluarilty.


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The form of the word Elohim, with the ending -im, is plural and masculine, but the construction is usually singular, i.e. it governs a singular verb or adjective when referring to the Hebrew god, but reverts to its normal plural when used of heathen divinities.


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Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
JEHOVAH, I am, God, Father, etc. Countless names, one person. Is there a problem with this, Jury?


Yes, Prince.

JEHOVAH is an ERRONEOUS name. So, if someone enforced somebody to use JEHOVAH as God's official or proper or real name, it is using God's name in vain.

Isn't it a problem, Prince?


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So, if someone enforced somebody to use JEHOVAH as God's official or proper or real name, it is using God's name in vain.
so?

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Yes, Prince.

JEHOVAH is an ERRONEOUS name. So, if someone enforced somebody to use JEHOVAH as God's official or proper or real name, it is using God's name in vain.

Isn't it a problem, Prince?


No it's not. I'm known by countless names to friends and family. Finiti should know about this being a dad and all. When you've got little kids who cant pronounce your name very well, they give you a nickname. And they may never stop calling you that because it grows on both of them. Same thing goes here. No one knows or can perfectly pronounce the name of God. So what do we do? We come up with nicknames. It only becomes "in vain" when you use it outside of a personal conversation. Like "Oh my God!", "Oh my Jehovah", or (for debbiejo) "Oh my Zeus!!" Than it becomes a problem.


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Originally posted by finti
indeed




Wow, now there's a first...


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Yeah, his daughter calls him Abba.



OK, I've gotta a question.....I've heard some say that saying "OH, my gosh" is also taking Gods name in vain...Whata think?

How about "Cheeze and Rice, Why'd you do that?"

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Originally posted by debbiejo
Yeah, his daughter calls him Abba.



OK, I've gotta a question.....I've heard some say that saying "OH, my gosh" is also taking Gods name in vain...Whata think?

How about "Cheeze and Rice, Why'd you do that?"


It could be.... I used to know someone who would say "GodRAM" instead of damn just so as not to say the swear.... but th intention is the same, it's just a way of saying the swear without technically saying it. I always say "oh my gosh," but I don't consider it taking His name in vain.... it's all what's in my heart/head when I say it, and I think it's all in everyone's when they say it


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Yeah, his daughter calls him Abba.
we aint Swedes !!!!!


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who would say "GodRAM
that is the ultimate computer right?

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