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Originally posted by long pig
Round Two, the first time he jobbed so hard to Surfer he may as well call himself Champion.

Bad crossover aside, I won't say Orion can beat Surfer the majority, but I can't say Surfer would either.
Orion (well written) is powerful enough to hang with Surfer and score a few wins.

Remember, they both have planet destroying powers, and they both have universal powers.
The Astro-Force was once used to counter and stop a universe destroying blast.

Surfer may have him in the speed depo, but not so much in space, Orion has flown to other planets in minutes, he also has godlike reflexes that allow him to counter and attack others who can go lightspeed.

Now, add that to the fact he can put up a shield strong enough to take an Omega beam from Darkseid, back when DS was immensly powerful, and he also has a healing factor on par with Hulk and strength on par with Superman, and skill on par with Thor and durability on par with Thor.

Also, Surfer is indeed weak against magical attacks, and that's basically what the Astro Force is.
(If we want to go by cross overs, the Astro force would have the same effect on Surfer as the Omega Blasts did.)

I believe Orion can definatly hang with the likes of Surfer, he is far far underrated.

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Originally posted by kgkg
Shield that is strong enough to take Omega Beam -

Omega beam has been reflected by heat vision so much for that.

SS has a great speed advantage, When he fought superman ( even supes had a speed advantage)

minutes , SS takes less that a second.

"If we want to go by cross overs, the Astro force would have the same effect on Surfer as the Omega Blasts did"

if we go by crossover Orion couldn't even scratch SS

Orion can't hand with SS , he might put somewhat of a battle , but it will be very hard for him to K.O Silver Surfer.

While it will be easy for SS to trap him , K.O , kill him

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Originally posted by supremthor
KG u give SS way to much credite. surfer almost died when he fell of his bord.

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Originally posted by skizo
I think he meant the omega beams from pre-crisis darkseid and I highly doubt heat vision would block those, correct me if im wrong here longpig.

Silver Surfer takes less than a second to get to another planet? How much faster then lightspeed is he?

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Originally posted by supremthor
KG u give SS way to much credite. surfer almost died when he fell of his bord.

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Originally posted by snoopdogg
I usually back up what I say about Superman.

Does that count as overrating?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You usually try to trick me, too.

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Originally posted by skizo
Hardly, Batman and wolverine are most overrated on this board, although I must say Supes does get overrated OCCASIONALLY! (I still love him)

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Originally posted by snoopdogg
When?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
When I ask you something, you provide proof, but you always tell me half of the story and leave out the rest. It's clear that you own more comics than me, but you're manipulative in your dispersal of information.

During his time on this board, Superman has developed immunities to magic, red-sunlight, and kryptonite. Overrating? Nah...

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Originally posted by ImmortalOne
Who gives a shit ?? Supez haterz !!
**ehhm...cough...like Sentry...cough..