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Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament- Round 1, Fight 4- K Von Doom vs. Khellendros
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Dizzle
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Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament- Round 1, Fight 4- K Von Doom vs. Khellendros

KVD
Titanium Man- http://underworld.fortunecity.com/b...taniumman.html#

Namorita- http://underworld.fortunecity.com/b.../namorita.html#

Darkhawk- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkhawk and http://darkhawkfan.bravehost.com/

Predator- http://members.iinet.net.au/~jahern...apons/index.php

Khellendros
Doctor Light-
Frostbite- http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/f/frostbit.htm

Grail- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grail_%28comics%29

Doctor Light- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor...supervillain%29

Jakita Wagner- http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/j/jakita.htm

Standard 1 hour prep, teams don't kill themselves, etc.

Location: Thanos's farm. It's innocent looking enough... A few acres of amazingly tall corn, a large open field, a small, comfortable, house, and a barn. Upon closer examination, the barn is nearly filled with now-useless pieces of technology. Broken laser guns, pieces of small spacecrafts, legless bionic cows, etc.

Ok ladies, I want a good clean fight. Keep it clean, no hitting below the belt. Let's get it on!


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Old Post Jan 22nd, 2006 09:51 PM
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K Von Doom
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Both teams start off in the barn? evil face could be over pretty quick

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I vote for Thanos... there's no way he's putting up with these FOO's f**king around on his farm


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Oh, my fault, teams start on opposite edges of the field. The barn and house are about halfway between each, and the cornfield is off to the side. They can see each other, but it's quite a long distance.

Oh, and Thanos left the farm for bigger and better things years ago, silly. Otherwise the death rays would all be operational. You know how Thanos loves his death rays... evil face


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K Von Doom
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With the 1 hour prep time, Titanium Man, Darkhawk and Namorita hash out their strategy for taking out the other team. Darkhawk and Namorita both turn on their invisibility so the Predator does the same. The aerial attack will be one of the more coordinated in this tourney because Darkhawk and Namorita have worked together numerous times as New Warriors, additionally, Darkhawk has teamed up with Titanium Man on a few occasions. Because they'll be fighting against unknowns, the team decide to go with a safe plan of Titanium Man taking the point, with the other two flyers in invisible mode flying parallel but a few hundred meters away.

Once the battle begins they all take to the air: Titanium Man, Darkhawk and Namorita head out. The Predator grabs a lift from Namorita, while also in invisible mode. BUT the other team will only see Titanium Man because Hawk, Namorita and Predator started out invisible. Titanium Man scans the area they're flying over. Darkhawk uses his enhanced vision to spot the other team. The Predator uses the vision settings in his helmet (IR/UV/Thermal Imaging/Air Density Pressure). Following their plan, Namorita and Darkhawk fly around the edge of the battlefield, Namorita on the far left of Titanium Man, Darkhawk to the far right. It's a farm so it'll likely have a lot of plains, probably trees on the edges and 6-foot tall cornfields so visibility isn't a problem.

They will eventually 'see' the other team. By seeing only Titanium Man flying towards them, the other team will assume that he's the only flyer and that the other three are on foot, which will likely prompt the opposing speedster, Wagner, to head out in search of the others.

Titanium Man will hang back and float within sight of the other team but far enough to easily evade any range attacks. Darkhawk and Namorita will also hang back about the same distance, while invisible. At this point, Namorita will fly around to the side area and drop off the Predator near some trees adjacent a cornfield and then fly back about 200 meters to the right of the opposing team. A minute passes and Titanium Man sees Namorita getting into position.

A plasma blast, from the invisible Predator is launched in the air as a flare, which will likely cause the other team to turn and look at where the blast came from. Titanium Man will then fly towards the opposing team shooting concussive blasts and lasers. The opposition will no doubt spread to avoid the incoming energy, unless they have some type of energy shield that can withstand the barrage (my team won't know) but if they do.... Darkhawk, with pinpoint-accuracy-rapid-fire-cyclops-level eye beams, will open fire on them from the right, along with darkforce chest blasts and wrist mounted cannons. And all the while, Darkhawk will be flying at full speed and invisible. Stop-and-start shooting so the opposition won't know where the next blasts will be coming from. Withstanding a Titanium Man barrage is possible but with the near-unlimited energy source of Darkhawk, it'll strain any energy absorber and Grail's "several minutes" shield protection will be taxed, forcing him to run. Titanium Man and Darkhawk will try to funnel the other team into the nearby cornfield.

With all this firepower, the other team won't know what hit them, so they flee. If they run to an open area Namorita will be waiting for them. With super strength, fast flying, superior maneuverability and invisibility, Namorita will get a few good shots in here, flying at an altitude of 6 feet aiming for their heads, specifically the regular-durability Dr Light and Frostbite... neither of whom are known for their grace under fire. Even if the shots are glancing blows, it'll disorient the other team enough not to formulate an effective re-active game plan. Firepower from the front, firepower from the side, super-strength and flight knocking them back into the rain of power blasts, the other team is left with only one direction to go... in the nearby cornfield where the Predator will be waiting for them. Titanium Man is too durable to harm, Darkhawk is invisible and beyond reach, Namorita's invisibility, flight and speed will protect her while in melee range. And if someone touches her, she'll punch their head off. If they didn't run into that cornfield to begin with, they're going there now.

The Predator will have set up some razor net traps amongst the cornstalks and will be waiting, invisible, for his prey, above on the trees. A couple of razor net traps will eventually go off. Plasma blasts from the Predator's shoulder cannon to add more confusion to an already-beaten team. A couple of smart disks are thrown, aimed at the waist/legs of the opposing team. Frostbite won't see what's coming, if he's not taken out by the firepower or a flying punch then a razor net is slicing into him or a smart disk will cleave off his legs. He won't get to use his power effectively under that type of barrage without inadvertently sapping the heat off his team mates. As for Dr Light, his illusion casting will be quite useless as the Predator won't be fooled by them and neither will Darkhawk. Additionally, the holograms will be revealed as fakes when the blasts go right through them. Dr Light's light weapons are similarly useless as he won't know where to aim while trying to stay alive. He'll be taken out the same way as Frostbite or via spear gun or shuriken or razor net or plasma cannon. And Grail won't be getting a bead on anyone, his attacks are too short range to take any of my team out. All he can do is try to withstand the barrage. Of course, he won't see the full-power dark force blast aimed at his head, courtesy of Darkhawk.

Finally, Wagner will likely be running around but her speed and strength are ineffective against foes who are flying and invisible. Namorita will be taking Wagner out because she'll be fast enough to perceive her movement and keep up with Wagner's foot speed using her flight (she's usually teamed up with Nova from New Warriors). All Wagner can do now is try to run away but Namorita will catch her and once it becomes a brawl, it's over. While their strengths will cancel each other out, Namorita has an advantage because she also has an acid touch; and once Namorita takes Wagner into the air it's, pretty much, over. Wagner is now a beach ball, tossed between Darkhawk and Namorita. And target practice for the Predator, while Titanium Man takes a nap. Nothing too fancy but still a win. High speed punches, darkforce blasts, eye beams, lasers, concussive forceblasts, net guns, smart disks, shurikens, plasma blasts = too much.

The game plan also works in the reverse, with the team scoping out the speedster first then isolating her from her team mates. The most glaring advantage my team has over Khell's is invisibility and flight. Khell's team is limited to the ground, it'll be hard enough for them to fight people with flight but adding invisibility to the mix put's Khell's team at a huge disadvantage. The only person on his team who could conceivably get around the invisibility is Dr Light but (1) he can't keep communicating to the other team shouting "Over there! Now, that way!" the entire fight and it's kind of pointless knowing where a blast is coming from when you're about to be KO'd by said blast and (2) he can't mount an effective attack (not that he can anyway) while acting as a radar for his team, for which he'll have to stay within visual range so the others see where he's pointing; and that's only if he hasn't been KO'd already.

.... and then we run before Thanos comes back.

Last edited by K Von Doom on Jan 22nd, 2006 at 10:21 PM

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how do they talk tactics with a pred that doesn't speak English.... or any other human language?


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Originally posted by Scoobless
how do they talk tactics with a pred that doesn't speak English.... or any other human language?


Well, as I mentioned, Titanium Man, Darkhawk and Namorita hash out the plan at the start. The Pred is in the dark because of comm limitations but he goes solo once dropped off. Of course, there's a general understanding that they're all on the same team.

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Well, here goes nothin.

For the first half hour or so, my team spends tie talking to each other, reviewing their powers and abilities and assigning people to the position of leader. Light is the only out and out villain on my team, but Grail is an assassin, Frostbite has no qualms about killing in self defense and Jakita is the type to kick a bad guy's spine out of his body by means of subduing him.

Since Frostbite is an experienced field leader on his own team, he gets that position in this case with Grail as second in command. They spend another twenty minutes going over some basic strategy, nothing too complicated since they have no clue who they're fighting.

Before the last ten minutes are up, Frostbite stores up enough heat for one good thermal blast and covers his upper torso and arms in super strong ice, while Light puts up his own person shield.

Out on the field, Light takes to the air, with instructions to keep near the team. The other two stay near Grail, who puts up a chi shield around all three of them.

Now, assuming Titanium Man's boosters work on any sort of combustion, he's screwed, since combustion is just a prolonged explosion. Frostbite will just sap the heat out of his rockers, preventing whatever he uses for fuel from igniting. At the same tme, he'll sap the heat from the armor itself until it's rendered brittle. One concentrated blast of all the heat he's stored up shatters TM's armor like an ice cube before he hits the ground.

Now about your Predator. He can't understand what any of your people are saying and has no reason to trust them. Also, Predators don't generally hunt humans who don't have weapons, which none of my people are carrying, whereas two of your team are walking, talking weapons. If the choice is taking on unarmed humans or heavily armed ones, which is going to bring the Pred more honor? Yeah. Your team is gonna be taking fire from it's own guy.

Energy blasts from Darkhawk are going to be useless when I have Light on my team, who can simply redirect them at his teammates or hold it in stable for use later. And continually firing at my guys will only serve to reveal your position, leaving you to be picked off by the Doctor or frozen to the point of fracture.

Jakita has enhanced senses, including hearing, which means she'll hear Namorita coming. All it will take is a warning from her and a widespread blast of chi from Grail and the girl is nothing but a charred Atlantean skeleton.

Eventually the Predator will have to be taken care of. Luckily for my team, his invisiblity mode sucks and leaves him still partially visible. Since his suit and weapons run off electricity, I could say Doctor Light drains his stuf of power and electrocutes him with it. I could say Grail hits him with a chi blast and burns every exposed piece of flesh from his bones. But, since she hasn't had much to do this match, it'd probably left up to Jakita to go kick his ass, since she's fast enough to dodge his thrown weapons and any plasma blasts he fires off are just more fuel for the heat-absorbing Frostbite.

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What's Frostbite's range? and is his drain omnidirectional or unidirectional?


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What's Frostbite's range? and is his drain omnidirectional or unidirectional?

Two miles if he strains. It can be omnidirectional, but trying to drain all the heat from all directions runs the risk of overloading his ability to store it, meaning stuff around him will start melting/bursting into flames as the heat bleeds out.

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Wouldn't the predetors body scan that indicates how healthy and capable the body of an opponent is allow him to know that khellendros team is not your average bunch of people? Also would the predator come with some form of knowledge as to where his allegence should lie?

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Wouldn't the predetors body scan that indicates how healthy and capable the body of an opponent is allow him to know that khellendros team is not your average bunch of people? Also would the predator come with some form of knowledge as to where his allegence should lie?

Predators scanner may show that they are healthy, but also that they have no recognizable weapons. Predators pass up unarmed people in favor of armed prey all the time. And, sure, the Pred may know the people he's in a rom with want his help, but why on earth should he help strong prey?

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Predators scanner may show that they are healthy, but also that they have no recognizable weapons. Predators pass up unarmed people in favor of armed prey all the time. And, sure, the Pred may know the people he's in a rom with want his help, but why on earth should he help strong prey?


I think we're working under the assumption that all team members will work together regardless of past history or individual hunting styles/traditions

that's how i'll be looking at it when i vote anyway


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I think we're working under the assumption that all team members will work together regardless of past history or individual hunting styles/traditions

that's how i'll be looking at it when i vote anyway

Well, Dizzle said everythign goes, including briging in PIS and CIS. If you're being true to the Predator character, it's more likely to turn on it's "team" than what look like random unarmed humans, and one blue glowing guy.

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Hasnt dizzle said that all characters have an understanding of who their teammates are?


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CIS is on, yes. They know that they're supposed to be on teams, but that doesn't mean they will be 100% loyal. This Pred will have spent an hour with its team already, and they're not stupid by any means. It also has a basic understanding that it's about to go and fight another team to the death. I'd personally doubt that he'd go for his own teammates, but there's no rules against arguing that a team would degenerate into a chaotic free for all. That's also the reason I added in the "people don't kill each other during prep" thing. It's mostly for characters who aren't quite smart enough to understand the concept of a team...

Blatant PIS should be called as such, but won't get you banned or anything. CIS is definitely legal though.


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CIS is on, yes. They know that they're supposed to be on teams, but that doesn't mean they will be 100% loyal. This Pred will have spent an hour with its team already, and they're not stupid by any means. It also has a basic understanding that it's about to go and fight another team to the death. I'd personally doubt that he'd go for his own teammates, but there's no rules against arguing that a team would degenerate into a chaotic free for all. That's also the reason I added in the "people don't kill each other during prep" thing. It's mostly for characters who aren't quite smart enough to understand the concept of a team...

Blatant PIS should be called as such, but won't get you banned or anything. CIS is definitely legal though.


thank god my team isn't full of self replicating anamilistic Wendigos then

*whew*

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Well, even if the Pred is willing to work with his team, all my other points are valid. Jakita can dodge any projectile fired at her and Frostbite will render any plasma weapons useless.

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