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Prime Shannon Briggs vs Wladimir Klitschko

Ok, so everyone knows about Briggs' antics, harrassing the Heavyweight champion, calling him out, of course Vitali whooped him, but had they both been in their prime, who would've won?


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Prime Klitschko, imho


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Really? :/ Briggs beat George Foreman.


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Different era, different conditioning.

Boxers (or athletes in general) these days are better conditioned than they were before. Science and technology has pushed the boundaries of peak human conditioning. Even though heavyweights look slow and cumbersome these days, they hit harder and are more durable than heavyweights from the past.


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Different era, different conditioning.

Boxers (or athletes in general) these days are better conditioned than they were before. Science and technology has pushed the boundaries of peak human conditioning. Even though heavyweights look slow and cumbersome these days, they hit harder and are more durable than heavyweights from the past.
Briggs has been on a roll lately though, he has been utterly destroying his opponents from what I've seen.


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Briggs fought a 48-year-old Foreman. Nothing special about that. He also lost to Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitscho. He's not beating Wladimir in his prime.


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Briggs fought a 48-year-old Foreman. Nothing special about that. He also lost to Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitscho. He's not beating Wladimir in his prime.
He gave Lewis one hell of a fight though.

As for Vitali... I'll admit Briggs got utterly destroyed in that fight.

But to be fair, Vitali is usually regarded as better Overall then his little brother Wladimir.

Its not like age is an issue, as Briggs is very close in age with Wladimir.

Like I said before though, Briggs has been destroying every opponent thrown his way since his comeback.


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Foreman got rob, just an fyi, lol. i thought it was pretty obvious.

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Briggs defeateed Foremon true . But Foreman was too slow and too heavy .

Prime Wladimir wins .

His punches harder

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Briggs had a prime..? The Klitschko Brothers dominated the heavyweight division longer than anyone in the modern era. Someone has been smoking crack and people should never smoke a drug named after a body part.


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Briggs had a prime..? The Klitschko Brothers dominated the heavyweight division longer than anyone in the modern era. Someone has been smoking crack and people should never smoke a drug named after a body part.
Briggs was amazing at one point in time.


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Briggs was amazing at one point in time.
Yeah, but no! PED's just made him a drug cheat.


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Briggs had a prime..? The Klitschko Brothers dominated the heavyweight division longer than anyone in the modern era. Someone has been smoking crack and people should never smoke a drug named after a body part.
https://www.ringtv.com/534503-best-...lennox-lewis-1/

"BEST PUNCHER
Shannon Briggs: He lacked endurance but Briggs certainly knew how to put his bodyweight behind a punch. Unfortunately for him you need the full package when you face me so power isn’t enough. Fans may expect me to say McCall or Hasim Rahman for punching power but I basically set myself up against both of them."

"FASTEST HANDS
Briggs: I was surprised by Briggs’ handspeed. He was able to close the gap very quickly and that allowed him to get off the big punches. Sometimes you don’t realize how quick someone is until you’re in there."


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Also he didn't use PED's in his prime afaik, he failed twice in his career, once for banned substances that weren't PED's at all to treat his asthma in 2009, and another time in 2017, both reasonably past what one would consider his prime.

Also those treating Briggs as a joke need to chill, he's had 6 losses in his entire career, only 2 of them by KO.

2 KO's and 4 decision losses out of a 68-fight career.

53 KO's, 37 of which were in the first round.


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No Briggs was never amazing. Respect for overcoming his Asthma, but that's it really. EVERYTIME apart from the past his prime Foreman he fought a Champion, he lost. Yes, he had a punch, like Tyson and Wilder, two other fighters who beat people until they fought true greats. Tyson actually comes 6 in my list of true great retired modern heavyweights behind, Ali, Lewis, Holyfield, and the Klitchko's. Wilder when he retires after Fury puts the hurt on him again will come in ten. Briggs... won't come in.


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Foreman was like 50 years old when he fought Briggs and very clearly got robbed.

The Cannon's record looks nice but is largely padded with cans.


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No Briggs was never amazing. Respect for overcoming his Asthma, but that's it really. EVERYTIME apart from the past his prime Foreman he fought a Champion, he lost. Yes, he had a punch, like Tyson and Wilder, two other fighters who beat people until they fought true greats. Tyson actually comes 6 in my list of true great retired modern heavyweights behind, Ali, Lewis, Holyfield, and the Klitchko's. Wilder when he retires after Fury puts the hurt on him again will come in ten. Briggs... won't come in.
Dude Lewis pretty much said Briggs hit harder then Tyson.


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For Mike Tysons brief prime, he was devastating. Could've been top 3. He destroyed careers. Prime Lewis against prime Tyson would be a good fight. I'd guess if Lewis could keep his distance and use that jab he'd win in later rounds. If he engaged early he'd wake up on the mat.


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Dude Lewis pretty much said Briggs hit harder then Tyson.


you really like Briggs, huh? Nothing wrong with that.

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Foreman was like 50 years old when he fought Briggs and very clearly got robbed.

The Cannon's record looks nice but is largely padded with cans.
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For Mike Tysons brief prime, he was devastating. Could've been top 3. He destroyed careers. Prime Lewis against prime Tyson would be a good fight. I'd guess if Lewis could keep his distance and use that jab he'd win in later rounds. If he engaged early he'd wake up on the mat.
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you really like Briggs, huh? Nothing wrong with that.
true enough.

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Dude Lewis pretty much said Briggs hit harder then Tyson.
wilder hits harder than Tyson...


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