I would say since I seen Doc and Thing fight Hulk and it seemed that Doc was giving better then Thing was I say Doc because he more agile and I would guess faster.
Show us ANY example of Doc doing better against Hulk than Thing!!!
I've seen the vast majority of all the fights between these 3 and
I've never seen Doc do better than Thing.
Thing also has WAY better fighting skills and experience!
Thing generally uses hit and run tactics on Hulk. Samson trades punches with Hulk.
Byrne's Animal-Hulk fought Samson for six hours and failed to defeat him. A few issues later, Samson (with help from the Hulkbusters) fought the Animal-Hulk for hours before Samson was kayoed.
More Durable - Ben is made of organic rock like substance that is essentially on second to Colossus's organic metal.
Fighting Skills- Ben has mastered many forms of combat such as wresatling, judo, street fighting, boxing, grappiling..ect. He has also been fighting since he was a boy.
The only thing that Samson might have on Ben is being smarter, however that isnt going to help him here.
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Ehm, Samson is WAY stronger than 70 tons. WAY stronger. He has to be. If you're going by some old Handbook then, yes, Samson would be in the 70 ton range. But that would also mean Thing is class 90(being able to lift 85 tons). But since Samson is as strong as a calm Hulk, who is easily class 100+ at base(according to the handbooks he's capabale of lifting 90 tons), he'd be about as strong as Thing. But we both know that they both have much higher showings, so we still don't know anything.
As for durability, well, Samson can withstand a lot too. More than you think. Punishement from Byrne's Hulk, for example. And yes, Samson is faster and more agile than Thing, which is definitely going to help him.
Well considering Samson's expertise is in psychology and he's as good in psych as Richards is in science, I'd say Samson could probably **** with Ben's head.
I think Thing has this in the bag. He's stronger, more durable, and a better fighter than Samson is imo. Samson is class 70 at best unless he is in Woodstock mode.
And another thing. People always say Samson is as strong as a calm Hulk. Which he may have been at one time but that's when calm Hulk was a 70 tonner. Now it's pretty much accepted that Hulk base is over 100 tons. But has it been mentioned....say in the last 15 years that Doc is as strong as a calm Hulk? I mean that used to be his moniker but somehow I don't think it's that way anymore.
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Yes Samson may be faster and more agile but he's still not in Thing's class..it could be a good fight, and no push over for Ben alright...but since Doc is actually a Doc i can imagine that he could come up with a plan to take the Thing down..it's possible..
Doc Samson starts spouting off about how psycology, and about how ben resents the fact that he can almost never be with a human, how reed failed to cure ben... ben becomes sullen, begins to cry, and doc tosses ben into the ocean.
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