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LovelyOne
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To you KttC "lurkers"

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What? You can't even lurk overthere anymore? Geez, what's their problem??

Alright here is what the post said:

Many of you have been witnessing some of the strange posts and diappearances of late, and we'd like to explain what's been going on so the total confusion doesn't remain.

I'm sure many of you will remember a member named BratBiotch. This began when she was banned from the KTTC site. She made some excellent points, and loved a good argument; the problem was that she also loved to insult people, call them names (she even called T&T liars), and over and over again we asked her through e-mail and PMs to be less agressive toward people, and stressed that she could have any point of view about the POTC Movies she liked, but no matter what it was, she was expected to present her views with human respect and without insult to other members and actors in these movies.

No less than a day after we sent her a final warning of being removed from the site with any further problem, she posted exactly the same way again. Her ability to post was removed, and before we could even compose a letter explaining exactly why and telling her that we wanted her to take a break and spend some time reviewing our TOU before postihg again, she had gone behind our backs and opened another account. She lied to us and to all of you about who she was, and introduced herself as new to KTTC. At that time, by forcing her way onto this space when she had been asked not to, her ban became permanent.

Evidently, being asked not to come back to our space on the Internet was more than she could handle. She belongs to another film based message board at KMC.com. Several of our members who have accounts on both boards have let us know almost daily that she has told this story in a very slanted way, much in the manner she made her posts here. She has several people on that site convinced that she was unfairly removed from this board, and they are so in need of something to post about or amuse themselves, several of them have opened accounts at KTTC for the sole purpose of relaying messages from her. We consider it a form of sockpuppeting to open 2 or more accounts, and that is clearly an offence in our TOU. We also consider it "trolling" to post the words of another for no reason other than to interrupt the flow of conversations on our board. As this is also a bannable offence here, we are and will continue to ban these members who are trolling and sockpuppeting as they come to light. We will NOT get into a shouting match with them, we'd prefer to be adults and just try to end the issue. All we desire is for them to leave us alone on our own space. They seem unable to do that, so further steps are being taken.

That sort of explains the recent rash of disappearihng members and posts, and you have an explanation of what has been going on. We appreciate any and all help you can give us. If you know of someone playing this game, please send the user ID here to one of the Mods and we'll check.

As always, you can be for Will, you can be for Jack, you can be for everyone dying for all we care - but you are required to present the arguments for your opinions with respect to fellow users, people associated with these films, and not post your views with the intent of starting an argument. You'll notice that any time any of the shipper threads or Thunderdome have been threatened for closing, it was because users stepped over the bounds of form, not because they had an opinion to share. No one on KTTC has ever been penalized for having a viewpoint on anything regarding these movies, just for the way they choose to present it and themselves.

We do appreciate the example set by most of you most of the time, you have radically opposing views on some things, yet are able to discuss and respect each other's right to disagree with you. The situations we deal with are the users who are not able to do that, and call names and insult members who do not agree with them. We just remind you to step back and take a breath when the temptation is there for that, and keep doing the good job of policing yourselves you already do.

If you have any questions regarding any of this, please PM me and I'll do my best to answer any concerns. Again, most of these answers are in the TOU, all you need to do is read and follow that


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1. I dont care that I cant come back to your site

2. What I care about is being banned for defending myself..did you not see the rude comment that person posted to me FIRST?

3. I did not twist anything. I was banned and I just posted my frustrasion on here. I mentioned the site then other people joined to check it out and they started to get annoyed with how it was being run.. Its their OWN opinions of your site not mine...

dont even try to blame this on me KttC..people here joined your site and DID NOT LIKE IT. I had nothing to do with it..so deal with it...Its not my fault they dont like how you run your site

Notice how they went to your site..then came here and posted how they didnt like it then I replied in the thread?

Meaning they went to your site..didnt like how it was being run..commented on it here and THEN I added my tuppance worth It means..I NEVER INFULENCED THEIR DISLIKE OF YOUR SITE..

so please stop using me as a scape goat KttC mods...stop trying to save face by blaming me for people not liking your site. .I guess they are all "sheep" to you being "led astray" by me well NO..They are people with their OWN opinions of your site not my opinions..

The reason I dont like your site is actually rather different to the other memebers here who joined BTW..If you look around you will see that. As If i could lead people astray, they went to your site and didnt like it for their own reasons not mine.

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To clarify..I now have TWO major reasons for hating your site.

1. You banned me for defending myself against a sarcastic little so and so. and my response wasnt even rude...it was just sarcasm in return

2. You are using ME as a scapegoat to try and explain away why so many people have been to your site and have disliked how its being run. How can I possibly be held responsible for how other people feel about your site? I basically say why I'm mad at the site..then they go over to check it out and form their own opinions of it..its got NOTHING to do with how I feel about it.

Seriously you are really pissing me off now KttC stay the hell away from me and stop using me as a person to blame for other people (capable of having their own opinions) disliking your site.

.they dislike your site because THEY think its crap not because I think its crap..I only wish I had that kind of influential power around here, Maybe I could make them send me lots of cookies..sadly I don't have that kind of power because this is REALITY.

ALSO when th feck did I call T&T a liar???? I said they might be saying one thing and MEANING ANOTHER when they release "info"

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Mistypirate
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OMG laughing out loud Whats going on over there? people are leaving the site and they are blaming it on you? laughing out loud
What a bunch of ignorants.


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Its not that. I think they are actually worried about how this will look to T&T/newcomers/current members or what ever so they blame ME for other people not liking the site and being banned..BS...

People dont like their site because of how its run so "OH NO SHOCK HORROR" they cant have that!! Just use me as a scape goat to save face..After all I cant defend myself over there anymore can I??, I'm the perfect scapegoat to use.. What sneaky, dishonest, HORRIBLE people you are..(MY OPINION!)

I cant even SEE whats going on over there cuz they banned me so how can I be egging people on to dislike it when I dont even really know whats going on over there anymore?

People are coming back from there and saying on here how they dont like..then I'm just agreeing..and giving my reasons for disliking it too..

Heck even new people from there have come here and said things about how they dislike it..I dont even KNOW those people like I know you guys

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Mistypirate
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Ok I get it big grin so basically,new people are registering to the site and posting their dislikes about it. Therefore they are saying it's your fault, they think you are sending them to post it for you. That is fu^%^ing ridiculous. If people don't like the site, maybe there is a reason. Yea I have seen people that come here and post their opinion about that worm infested site. If people don't like your site, oh well live with it, don't make a big deal out of it. And don't try to blame other people for your wrong doings.


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shannstar79
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I am sorry they are doing thi sto u lovleyone, your a very nice person, with very interesting points. I hate that they are saying all this bad stuff about you. dont let it bother you, we got your back
Luvs U roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Also someone actually PMd what they were saying about me cuz they found it unfair..(I had NO clue what they were saying about me)..I couldnt see the link cuz I'm banned and they then PMd me what was said over there..

Thanks guys..I'm just really pissed off at being made out to be the reason why people dont like the site..people dont like the site because of how its run its got nothing to do with me..

me and others being treated badly over there and expressing ourselves about it here is just what fules the hatred towards the site even more..I think thats where the lines are getting crossed

Little hint KttC..Maybe you should actually check into how you run the site and make changes, actually listen to why people are saying they dislike it instead of trying to sweep it all under the rug and using a scape goat to "solve the problem"

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Never mind what they are saying. They just want to blame someone for their mistakes. And like you said, they see you as a scape goat, in order to justify their doings. But don't worry about it,and stick to what you believe in.


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LovelyOne
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they will probably twist this and say I'm spreading more hatred..thats BS..

I'm defending myself on KMC because I cant do it over there in KttC, I feel like I'm being used/abused and I cant even fight back..

They are blaming me, talking about me, using my name to twist things and I cant even explain myself over there and they know it..they are horrible, sneaky people..

hate breeds hate

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Viva Sparrabeth!!

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They can call it what ever they want, I see nothing wrong for posting your opinion about something you don't like. No one can make you shove something you don't like down your throat. Thats a bunch of crab. They are a bunch of over sensitive as#$es that don't know how to take things. Don't worry about it and don't take it seriously. We are w/ you 100% girl. Well I gotta go back to work I'll chat w/ yous later. xoxoxoxox smile


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For kttc
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The deapest circle of Hell is reserved for bertayers and muteneers


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it's really a shame this has gotten so out of hand. we are all fans of the same film. its a shame there has to be lines drawn at all. LovelyOne, i really respect your opinions and your method of voicing them.

our thread just has very different values that kttc. because they are considered the "official" site, they have to be pretty anal. or they choose to be. in any case, they have big important people looking in on them all the time, apparantly. they have to keep the house looking perfect, if you know what i mean.

i find this to be something of a contradiction to the point of internet forums in the first place.

its disappointing to me that they would sink to such a low and obviously spiteful message of explanation to their members. However, I know the J/L shippers of the forum remember you fondly and understand that the story on kttc has a real slant to it. the mods on that site do not impress me. they choose to attack and ban certain posts (posts, for example, with sarcastic references or spoilers that may point to a j/l ending) and choose to ignore racy and rude posts made by other members. I dont understand the logic behind this at all. but that is their site, so i suppose they can run it that way if they want.

i know most kttc members belong to other forums where they can test out ideas and vent their true feelings when they get frustrated.

i wish they would leave kmc alone, though. i'm quite frustrated with the way they've handled this.

and i'm quite happy with our laizze-faire style of modding. smile rogue, you are awesome.

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exactly..keep the house clean at all times..sweep it all under the rug and use a scapegoat who cant get on there anymore..perfect..

PS. thanks kate

and shannstar laughing out loud

Kate I think they are W/E shippers mostly(the mods Imean) and they dont want "important" people looking in to see how many people love the idea of Jack/Liz..Its so obvious IMO..(just my opinion) but it seems to be the slant..the bias if you will.

All the W/E discussion pretty much takes place in spoilers section and the J/E stuff is all shoved into the spyglass section where people probably dont visit much and members CANT discuss spoilers/speculations and if they do they get deleted.

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Originally posted by katelovespirate
it's really a shame this has gotten so out of hand. we are all fans of the same film. its a shame there has to be lines drawn at all. LovelyOne, i really respect your opinions and your method of voicing them.

our thread just has very different values that kttc. because they are considered the "official" site, they have to be pretty anal. or they choose to be. in any case, they have big important people looking in on them all the time, apparantly. they have to keep the house looking perfect, if you know what i mean.

i find this to be something of a contradiction to the point of internet forums in the first place.

its disappointing to me that they would sink to such a low and obviously spiteful message of explanation to their members. However, I know the J/L shippers of the forum remember you fondly and understand that the story on kttc has a real slant to it. the mods on that site do not impress me. they choose to attack and ban certain posts (posts, for example, with sarcastic references or spoilers that may point to a j/l ending) and choose to ignore racy and rude posts made by other members. I dont understand the logic behind this at all. but that is their site, so i suppose they can run it that way if they want.

i know most kttc members belong to other forums where they can test out ideas and vent their true feelings when they get frustrated.

i wish they would leave kmc alone, though. i'm quite frustrated with the way they've handled this.

and i'm quite happy with our laizze-faire style of modding. smile rogue, you are awesome.


well said Kate!!


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yeah and it's quite, forlack of a better term, shitty of them to put you on blast like that WTF? *mockingly british tone* polite society does not do that....*end mock* pleh, saving face for the writers my fanny, they're big boys, they can handle themselves....


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I never actually called anyone a name on there..I called Will a pansy boy on my first day there though, got yelled at and I never did it again(they say Jack stinks like the inside of mules ass however and get away with it) :..I never called any other members a name on there though..ever.

over here I did though after they banned me. The mods were annoying me..I called them **** tards...

see I'm honest about what I do and say..which is more than I can say for them

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i just thought of something, the winner of the battles gets to write the history, so...lets win!


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Omg Lovelyone im really sorry ur going through this!! but seriously who needs KTTC anyway...u have us who care about u and respect what u have to say!! LOL...u revolutionized there world they just feel threatened by u!! No Worries Lovelyone is their loss not urs!!


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You broke the rules, LovelyOne.


You are a passionate person, which is good, and you are intelligent, which is why I'm so disappointed that you would even post this up and try to pass it off as a complete lie. We both know that at least some, if not all of this, is true.


I was on those forums, I read your posts. You...


It doesn't matter. I'm not going to bother arguing this with you. I just have to let you know that you've disappointed me, and I really expected, and had hoped, to see better from you.

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Look surreal44..I know you love that site, right but I was banned because I ****ing stood up for myself after being attacked so incase you dont know.. GO and see what happened instead of taking their dishonest word for it..**** I wish i saved that page now..or took a screen cap of it now..

I DONT ****ING LIE ALRIGHT?

IM PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW that they are using me as an excuse for other people disliking their site..and I cant even defend myself over there..its not MY fault that people dont like their site...So its ok for them to post shit about me surreal44 on their site and I cant retaliate?

I dont give a crap if I dissapointed you I will not be made a fool of and be used as some sort of tool to them to "explain away" WHY people have been banned from their site because they didnt like it over there..

I did break rules but they wernt even bad things i did, like i ****ed up the editing thing once or twice. I was very persistant and non argumentative the first day there..I just argued my J/E point a lot which they do for W/E and they didnt like it.

You know what happened to me my first day before even breaking any rules?? After speaking lots about J/E in the thunderdome??

THE SENT ME A PM TELLING ME TO SHUT UP

Its a thunderdome for gods sake, things are supposed to get heavy in there..they just wernt used to such a passionate J/E shipper in there..i was "on their turf" to speak..and some little cow was sarcastic to me and be littled me. So I was sarcastic back and they banned me...that little W/E sod didnt get banned at all for doing the exact same thing as ME..heck she was more in the wrong because she was trying to annoy me and be rude to me.

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