As for the fight, I give it to Osborn 9/10 as long as he stays on the Glider. and 6/10 if he is off, I think the Goblin may be to durable for cap to overly effect unlike Spidey and his strength could turn Cap into wonderpaste, but Cap has been known to take out very strong opponents aswell.
No his main advantage is weapons and his glider, but the strength defenatly helps, and GG is class 10, but I don't think he will be very easy to KO his skin is bullet proof and wears a kevlar costume so he deffinatly can take some punishment, not saying can't KO him but it won't be easy.
why are people putting the Goblins against these crap people
ok, ya, norman/harry/phil arent martial artists and off the gliders probably get it handed to them
but, cap shouldn't have the capacity to down GG, neither should Wolverine. I'm sure writers "could" do it, but thats more of the hero/villian conflict, where the hero must always win.
Cap's shield would be the slowest projectile that osborn had to evade, from there, its him using his array of weapons that he is talented enough to take out spider-man with, let alone people with superhuman/enhanced/whatever superspeed.
Goblin is a character built to take out super strong, super moblie, and super fast enemies. The fact that cap or wolvie are lightyears ahead of him in h2h is moot, as, given these are the showings of the characters at the best of their abilities, neither should be able to take osborn down.
Really, how often is a GG brought off their glider? How often by slower, weaker, less mobile opponents?
Thats the thing, you are only counting the high end throw feats for cap
unfortunatly i dont have a lot of comics with the norman GG, but like, even Phil could dodge things thrown at him from the ground
He was capable of evading Rhino throwing things, probably not as accurate, but way faster/harder given rhino is class 80 (ish?)
High end for both basically says that "cap can throw his shield and take down anything" and for goblin it is "dodges things that are thrown at him"
To bring the comparison back to Phil again, I'll go check this now, but im pretty sure the only 'enemy' he had that 'knocked him off his glider' would be a sentinel. I dont think cap is in league with a sentinel, and osborn makes phil look like a cheap immitation.
Since the rhino doesnt count (ie, he always looses) can I say that Cap's feats don't count (ie, he always wins?) In both cases it is PIS driven, rhino always looses because he is the loser, cap always wins because he is the hero, therefore all the feats for these two characters are not allowed
I see your point, and no, im not saying because Phil dodged rhino that norman dodges cap
but c'mon, you guys can make better logic than that
You're going off on a tangent. The fact of the matter is this, saying that somebody beat Rhino does not count because he always loses. What you need to do is give an example of a character is better represented in the comics.
Cap is not PIS driven you need to do some research on peak humans.
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