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Crossover fights

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Thank you.

Do you think that can be used in debates?

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Well,the crossover is canon.


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But should people be allowed to use it seeing as some hate corssovers all together.

BTW like the MM vs Thor fight? lol

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A lot of crossovers are fan voted, and if not generally the outcomes are pre-determined rather than up to the writer's interpretation of the characters. So they call any crossover into some doubt.

I feel like they can be used in instances where the writing seems consistent with each character and their power set. But they are by no means definitive and final.


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A lot of crossovers are fan voted, and if not generally the outcomes are pre-determined rather than up to the writer's interpretation of the characters. So they call any crossover into some doubt.

I feel like they can be used in instances where the writing seems consistent with each character and their power set. But they are by no means definitive and final.


Actually, I talked directly to Kurt Busiek about the Thor/Superman fight. He said that he and his team of writers sat down and all agreed that Superman would win that encounter. It wasn't pre-determined, nor was it company politics.


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Giant Man making contact with Flash ? What the f**k?

Cross-Overs = Crap.


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BTW like the MM vs Thor fight? lol


notice Thor is no where to be seen for the rest of the fight?


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Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, I talked directly to Kurt Busiek about the Thor/Superman fight. He said that he and his team of writers sat down and all agreed that Superman would win that encounter. It wasn't pre-determined, nor was it company politics.
eek! Cool.

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notice Thor is no where to be seen for the rest of the fight?


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Just shows how awesome MM is. cool

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Giant Man making contact with Flash ? What the f**k?

Cross-Overs = Crap.


He was distracted, it was the only way they could do it so they used some PIS for the fight.

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Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, I talked directly to Kurt Busiek about the Thor/Superman fight. He said that he and his team of writers sat down and all agreed that Superman would win that encounter. It wasn't pre-determined, nor was it company politics.


the only porblem i have with that is, that thor fought like a
dumbass and didnt use all his abilities...but later in the comics
he says he has now his measure and a second fight would
have an other outcome.


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the only porblem i have with that is, that thor fought like a
dumbass and didnt use all his abilities...but later in the comics
he says he has now his measure and a second fight would
have an other outcome.
Yeah but when does he fight any different??

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Actually, I talked directly to Kurt Busiek about the Thor/Superman fight. He said that he and his team of writers sat down and all agreed that Superman would win that encounter. It wasn't pre-determined, nor was it company politics.
Of course that can change between writers.

And I don't like crossovers period.

For one the Superman Thor fight was stupid. Superman able catch Thor's blow mind swing, yeah because you know a million high, class 100s haven't tried that and gotten there heads pounded in?


Not to mention there are other highly dubious encounters on both sides in most cross-overs. Captain Marvel(Female Version) beat Green Lantern for crying out loud.


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For the record, one guy has caught the hammer and decked Thor afterwards. Count Nefaria. So it's not unprecedented.

And almost no class 100 in Marvel is on Superman's level.


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For the record, one guy has caught the hammer and decked Thor afterwards. Count Nefaria. So it's not unprecedented.

And almost no class 100 in Marvel is on Superman's level.


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For the record, one guy has caught the hammer and decked Thor afterwards. Count Nefaria. So it's not unprecedented.

And almost no class 100 in Marvel is on Superman's level.
Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Kurse, Mangog, Juggernaut, Thanos, Hercules.

Some may not be as strong as Superman but most are Wonder Woman level or stronger. That definitely puts them in his strength range.


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Ok, so I exagerated. stick out tongue I did say almost. Plus, Superman has almost infinite capability to get stronger, so he can beat most of these guys in a strength vs. strength match.

Thanos, Kurse, Mangog and Juggs could catch the hammer, I don't see the others doing it.


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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, so I exagerated. stick out tongue I did say almost. Plus, Superman has almost infinite capability to get stronger, so he can beat most of these guys in a strength vs. strength match.

Thanos, Kurse, Mangog and Juggs could catch the hammer, I don't see the others doing it.
Hulk has infinite capacity to get stronger, Thor does as well, so does Juggernaut.

The hero factor isn't always the best evidence to prove a point stick out tongue

And the point was that most people as strong or close to Superman don't just catch the Hammer like Superman did and bash Thor in one punch.

And my biggest point is that the entire issue had large runs of Stupidity throughout. Unless you would willing to say Captain Marvel can beat GL Hal?


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