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DCU gets remade - all books are #1s, Geoff Johns and Jim Lee on Justice League, more

Geezus.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/0...l-distribution/

Important part:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics...reinvents_n.htm

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"We looked at what was going on in the marketplace and felt we really want to inject new life in our characters and line," says Dan DiDio, who co-publishes DC with Lee. "This was a chance to start, not at the beginning, but at a point where our characters are younger and the stories are being told for today's audience."


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I notice a slight costume change for Superman - but expect that and the age as just the beginning.

Crisis on Infinite Earths type of reboot. Just damn. This could be great.


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Geezus.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/0...l-distribution/

Important part:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics...reinvents_n.htm



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I notice a slight costume change for Superman - but expect that and the age as just the beginning.

Crisis on Infinite Earths type of reboot. Just damn. This could be great.


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I don't even...what the hell?

I like Geoff Johns as a writer and all, but no, I don't want to see him helming the JLA - admittedly, JLA can't get much worse than it is now under Robinson - and everything else he's likely going to be handling such as Green Lantern and Aquaman. Rebooting all the books to #1 is ridiculous, imo to say nothing of trying to reset the DCU. Again.


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i knew of this awhile ago so i went and asked my local comic shop they said that when something like this happens the company has to notify its retailers...and they were not notified so it is just a not gonna happen im told. they went on to say maybe a few books might but it's really doubtful.


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I don't even...what the hell?

I like Geoff Johns as a writer and all, but no, I don't want to see him helming the JLA - admittedly, JLA can't get much worse than it is now under Robinson - and everything else he's likely going to be handling such as Green Lantern and Aquaman. Rebooting all the books to #1 is ridiculous, imo to say nothing of trying to reset the DCU. Again.
Geoff Johns and Jim Lee are exactly what the Justice League needs. The book has been terrible for quite a while, and it needs the attentiond and quality (no matter what complaints you may have about Geoff Johns and his portrayal of some characters) that it deserves.

Besides Batman (Grant Morrison), Green Lantern (Geoff Johns) and arguably Flash (who hasn't really gotten that great reception, even if the sales were there), the DCU has been in a terrible state. Superman was in a terrible state. Wonder Woman was in a terrible state. The Teen Titans and Jsa franchises were in a terrible state.

If handled right, this is just what the DCU needs, imo.


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"This was a chance to start, not at the beginning, but at a point where our characters are younger and the stories are being told for today's audience."


That is utterly ridiculous. If I wanted to read about teenage characters, I'd start buying Teen Titans. Imo, if DC wants to start boosting sales, they need to start writing better stories... Don't revamp the entire friggin' company just to cater to younger/brand new readers.


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Originally posted by Philosophía
Geoff Johns and Jim Lee are exactly what the Justice League needs. The book has been terrible for quite a while, and it needs the attentiond and quality (no matter what complaints you may have about Geoff Johns and his portrayal of some characters) that it deserves.

Besides Batman (Grant Morrison), Green Lantern (Geoff Johns) and arguably Flash (who hasn't really gotten that great reception, even if the sales were there), the DCU has been in a terrible state. Superman was in a terrible state. Wonder Woman was in a terrible state. The Teen Titans and Jsa franchises were in a terrible state.

If handled right, this is just what the DCU needs, imo.


I think Johns and Lee on a JL/JLA title would be good for the title and sales, as they are both talented creators in their own right, but I really don't think a massive retcon, if that is what they're planning on doing through Flashpoint, is the answer for DC. Using events as a vehicle to undo or "fix" storyline elements on such a massive scale is something DC has done several times over in the past, and I feel they should go about it a different way.

I'll reserve final judgment once its revealed how much and how far this reboot goes; I for one, don't want the DCU to be warped back to "Year 1" status and just undo decades worth of stories again only to rehash them for a "modern" audience/fanbase.

"If handled right" is the key, all in all.


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If I wanted to read about teenage characters
They never said that. Clark/Bruce are by now, in their mid thirties at least. They'll likely make them year 3-4 Superman/Batman and Justice League, which is good.


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I like that I follow indy books more than DC ones.

Though as I don't currently like a lot of the DC books, this may end up suiting me.


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just do not affect batman or their titles otherwise i will buy


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So we're probably going to have Pre-COIE, Post-COIE, Post-Infinite Crisis, and now, Post-Flashpoint canon to sort out? To say nothing of the multiverse, which could possibly be altered or done away with altogether. I just feel that they could have very easily done what they want to do through the Earth-1 graphic novels, which was the whole point of them being introduced: DC's iconic characters set in a "contemporary" and easy accessible format for new readers or people who have had next to no exposure to the characters until now.

They really don't need to reboot the entire universe when it's just far easier to pen better stories that will engage readers. Hell, they could just make a pseudo-"ultimate DC" line of books if they were that concerned about getting new readers on board with "fresh" takes on their characters.


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They never said that. Clark/Bruce are by now, in their mid thirties at least. They'll likely make them year 3-4 Superman/Batman and Justice League, which is good.
I still don't like the fact that they are going back to [near] the beginning. I feel it's an unneeded change.

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Hell, they could just make a pseudo-"ultimate DC" line of books if they were that concerned about getting new readers on board with "fresh" takes on their characters.
I've been saying that for a LONG time. Don't just talk about multiple universes. Use them.


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I hope to God this only just feels like Heroes Reborn.


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Well it seems Final Crisis was aptly named...

I’m cautiously optimistic. Geoff Johns and Jim Lee working on JLA is a recipe for success. And frankly most DC comics have been rather shitty lately only Batman, Green Lantern, and Flash have had good comics recently. My big question is what is Grant Morrison going to work on? Hopefully he’ll work on Superman.

But, yeah, and "Ultimate" line for DC would make more sense than an entire reboot...

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I like this news. DC needs this.

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Yeah hope this works out for them! Maybe Barbara will come back as Batgirl now!


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Yeah hope this works out for them! Maybe Barbara will come back as Batgirl now!


With all due respect, I feel that Babs as Oracle offered a great deal more to the Bat mythos and DCU as a whole than she did as Batgirl. She's also one of the most prominent disabled characters in comics and to my knowledge one of the few disabled women at that.


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With all due respect, I feel that Babs as Oracle offered a great deal more to the Bat mythos and DCU as a whole than she did as Batgirl. She's also one of the most prominent disabled characters in comics and to my knowledge one of the few disabled women at that.


Ah yes, I can see that side. She offers a lot as Oracle. smokin'


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Frankly, it's been a couple years since the entire multiverse has been rebooted. Clearly DC is due for this long-needed change.

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We don't know the full details, so it could or could not be the entire multiverse.

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Originally posted by Philosophía
Geezus.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/0...l-distribution/

Important part:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics...reinvents_n.htm



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I notice a slight costume change for Superman - but expect that and the age as just the beginning.

Crisis on Infinite Earths type of reboot. Just damn. This could be great.
I was told this a while back at my comic store. But they thought it was going to be alternate universe, more like Marvel's Ultimate Universe.

I don't mind change but how many times is DC going to do this?
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Frankly, it's been a couple years since the entire multiverse has been rebooted. Clearly DC is due for this long-needed change.

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