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Could Thor possibly become as popular as Superman... ?

Ok, so obviously the chance of that happening anytime soon is miniscule.

What i really mean is, is it possible for Thor to become one of Marvel's flagship characters? Both in terms of inside the MU and marketing/sales? For example, Thor and Spider-Man would be Marvel's Superman and Batman.

Do you think this could happen, and if so, how?


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I love the guy and Marvel have really tried like i remember back in 1999 when they gave him a new series and stuff to push him but for some reason he keep's failing in popularity unless he get's a strong team behind him and keep up the success that the amazing stories we got then we could hopefully see him become a top tier flagship again.


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DC would be burned down if Superman went into a deep sleep like Thor has, so no, Thor won't be.


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I believe they could but over 10 years or so.

Maybe an animated series, 2 on-goings, some films. Make the Mjolnir more iconic and a symbol like the S.

Maybe some Thor toys and such, Costumes, Toy Mjolnir.


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If they could pull it off, they'd need an amazing movie, an excellent comic, quit him jobbing out to everyone, and establish him as a major player.


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I consider Thor quite similar to characters like Storm, The Thing or Hawkeye. He is popular enough for the fans to want him in most Avengers line ups, but probably just not popular enough to have their own series.........


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superman as been around a long time and i know thor as too but fact is none comic fans know who superman is. he is an household name in a certain way. blink
my opinion is now sentry has arrived on marvel, i think thor is gona take a back seat to him. i might be wrong. i like thor but superman is always gona be bigger than him.


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If they'd didn' kill Thor. Put a movie Trology out with him. Start a cartoon series. And in 10 years he will reach 1/10 of Superman's popularity. Everyone knows Superman. Even my parents do know who Superman and Batman is. They are Classic. And they are my favs big grin No hero can challange them big grin shifty


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Nope. I don't think.

Superman is known all around the world by the movies.

Superman is iconic by himself. Marvel's Thor is just a remake of a much more know real god. And the real god is different and has more charisma (it's an heroic moron).

Think to Spiderman. He's iconic by himself.

Thor is an "northen" figure. Marvel is an hyper-patriotic company (yes, we have another word for that...). Humans >>> non-humans ; USA-peoples >>> Other humans ; Anglo-saxons >>> Latins.
Thor is so powerful because is a germanic god. In Marvel, Asgardians >>> Other gods.
Anglo-saxons know well Thor.

In France, for example, Thor is a secondary god. Greecs, Romans and Egyptians are far more importance. The "Thor" character has not in France the same importance than in anglo-saxon and germanic countries. A character called "Thor" has to be strongly introduced in no-anglo-saxon countries, because he's not in the local culture.


Superman is not see as an "USA hero".
No matter who can adapt Superman.

Thor and remains a purely US character, who is interested really only in the USA. And it is still worse if you thinks of Avengers.


Peoples who don't know or like US comics (or even comics) can easily understand Superman : It's a good and gentle reporter who can change himself in godlike character who can fly, lift cars, shoot laser by his eyes and can't be harmed by bullets.
But Thor ? Who he is ? Thor is just a "uber-wank" as Wolverine, Hulk or Thanos.

Think to Spiderman : Easy to understand.


Superman is gentle, polite, humble. Superman is FRIENDLY. Superman is our friend. We can love Superman because you know he love you already.
Thor ? Err...

Think to Spiderman : He's gentle, polite, humble. Spiderman is Friendly. And funny.


What have Thor ? Just his uber-powa.


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laughing out loud think you just killed the thread.
i guess what you trying to say is superman is worldy known to thor who is almost bound to USA.
I dont live in america so i could go outside and ask a large amount of people to name 10 superheroes. thor would not even be thought of.


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I loled can't compete against that.


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I think know superheroes in France can be :

Superman
Spiderman / L'araignée (local name)
Sailor moon
Dragon Ball
X-men (don't know the individuals, but have seen the movies. But i think x-men fade with time).

And maybe the manga-hero of the month (this time, it's naruto, the foxgod-ninja-brat).

Oh !
Forgot two :
Batman
Maybe Hulk (great succes of the old tv serial, here).




The old peoples know often Mandrake. I'm surprised by that.


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Re: Could Thor possibly become as popular as Superman... ?

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Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Ok, so obviously the chance of that happening anytime soon is miniscule.

What i really mean is, is it possible for Thor to become one of Marvel's flagship characters? Both in terms of inside the MU and marketing/sales? For example, Thor and Spider-Man would be Marvel's Superman and Batman.

Do you think this could happen, and if so, how?



If more people started praying to Thor it could happen.


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Probably never as big, no. Look at Captain Marvel at DC - how he's had to take a back seat to Supes for decades.
When the movie comes out - within three years, according to Marvel - we'll see if it's popular enough to push him forward. Right now, you could say Wolverine is a bigger character than Superman, thanks to the massive success of the movies, and the steady push in popularity for the X-Men since the 1970's. It took the movies for the entire mainstream to make him a household name.
It took the 1970's TV show of the Hulk to make him a household name - people know who he is without having to be explained. So, Thor is going to need a similar push for the mainstream to really know him.


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Now Thor will never be as popular as Superman, but it's obvious that his popularity is growing. I mean look at Marvel Ultimate Alliance, he 's one of the main characters along with Captain America, Spider man, and Wolverine. Just being put in the same lineup with these characters is proof that his popularity is growing.

It would help if they changed Thor's gear from that classic crap.


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The problem with Thor, is that his character seems, to the layman, so based on the Norse religion/mythology that he loses his identifiability with the common man. Sure Superman is essenially an alien, but he is the picture of the man that everybody wants to be- strong willed, good natured, evil fighting. The good guy.

Thor is a grown man with long golden hair and wings on his head, who flies around waving a hammer and speaking in centurys-old english. erm

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The problem with Thor, is that his character seems, to the layman, so based on the Norse religion/mythology that he loses his identifiability with the common man. Sure Superman is essenially an alien, but he is the picture of the man that everybody wants to be- strong willed, good natured, evil fighting. The good guy.

Thor is a grown man with long golden hair and wings on his head, who flies around waving a hammer and speaking in centurys-old english. erm


Al least his outfit doesn't look like pajamas, with underwear on the outside. wink


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Al least his outfit doesn't look like pajamas, with underwear on the outside. wink
Hey... mad mad Don't you dare disrespect my hero's outfit big grin stick out tongue


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Al least his outfit doesn't look like pajamas, with underwear on the outside. wink


Don't get me wrong, I prefer Thor to Supes any day. But he just cant represent the same kind of identifiability as Supes does to the common man.

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Drop the Thorspeak and he has a chance. A SLIM chance, but a chance nonetheless.

Btw, Superman's popularity is a bit overrated. He's more of an abstract icon that nobody really cares about, yet they know him.

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