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Batdude's Tourney Match #4

Welcome to Batdudeís Tourney Match #4!!!

Todayís Contenderís are

Darthgoober/Big Bran

And their characters for the fight are:

Bran / Darthgoober -
Earth X Absorbing Man
Despero
Super-Adaptoid

Vs.

Devil Lance/Lucid Lui

And their characters for the tourney are:

Lucid Lui / DevilLance -
DL - Quasar
LL - X-Man
Both - Mangog

For a look at the rules, use this link:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...scussion-thread

The characters for the match will have twenty minutes of preparation time. The battle will take place in Atlantis. The contenders will each have nanotechnology injected into their blood stream that allows them to be able to function underwater. They will be approximately 1 kilometer apart (.62 miles).

START THE BATTLE!!!!

Judges for the match are (again) pendingÖ


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Darthgoober/BB's opening statement:

quote:

darthgoober wrote on Jan 14th, 2007 01:46 PM:

The first thing weíre going to do, is to have Super Adaptoid take on the forms of ďclassicĒ Scarlet Witch, Dr. Druid, And Captain America. EX AM will then absorb a hex bolt from Wanda, and the properties of Capís shield. So, EX AM will be as durable as Cap's shield, but will also have the power of Scarlet Witch's Hex Bolts.

AM absorbing and utilizing Surferís blast, while retaining a solid form:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/...ferblastsv0.jpg

After that, he will absorb the knowledge of the assumed characters(kind of like he did with Ultron). This will give him Caps fighting ability, the abilities of Dr. Druid (all of his abilities are learned, so they should therefore be transferred with the knowledge he absorbs), and a basic understanding of how to use Wandaís powers. However, the thing is that he should actually be able to use the hexís with an even greater efficiency than Wanda, because AM already knows the mathematical equation to negate them, so he should be able to use those kind of calculations to ensure maximum ability, with minimal risk).

AM knowing the formula to Wandaís powers:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/...babilitydx5.jpg


After thatís all done(shouldnít take more than 5 or 10 minutes total), the Super Adaptoid will then assume the form of EX AM. After the form is assumed, EX AM and Despero will telepathically transfer how to use all of EX AMís new abilities to the Super Adaptoid(giving him access to ALL of them).


Then, EX AM and the Super Adaptoid will use his powers to absorb and match the speed of Despero. So just how fast is Despero you ask? Well, while he may not have much in the way of actual speed feats, heís tagged Flash on the move often enough to indicate that he DOES have super speed/reflexes(and a decent amount of them)Ö.

Despero tagging FlashÖ
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3551/flashtaghd7.jpg

Actually interrupts a speed blitz by Flash in the middle of combatÖ
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/...interuptou5.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/...nterupt2zk8.jpg


AMís abilities
Matches Thorís Speed (Thor himself mentions that AM is as fast as he is in the first panel of the second scan):
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/...orbspeedgr5.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/...rbspeed2uj0.jpg

Matches Beastís Agility (just to show that AM can duplicate pretty much ANY attribute of someone when he feels so inclined):
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/...bagilitydi0.jpg

Lastly weíll have the EX AMís use Wandaís powers to increase our overall effectiveness, by altering probability in our favor. After that, our team will assume a defensive stance (with EX AM and Super Adaptoid standing ready to absorb any incoming attacks), and wait for your team to come to us. And seeing as how each of our guys has the speed/reflexes to interrupt a blitzing Flash, we'll be more than capable of responding to your team approaching.


Battle Phase

As soon as your team approaches, Despero and Super Adaptoid(using Dr. Druidís abilities)will attack X-Man telepathically(IĎll leave Quasar to bigbran). While a case MIGHT be made about X-Man being able to stalemate Despero in a one on one TP battle, Dr. Druidís abilities are not only impressive they are also mystic in nature. Between the combined TP assault by Super Adaptoid and Despero, I think it's pretty safe to say that X-Man is toast. Also remember, that our entire team is under the effects of Wandaís powers, which means that all of our attacks are that much more likely to be successful. So X-Man is down fairly quickly(within seconds, in fact).

Dr. Druid freezes the Avengers with his mental powers:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/...ndfreezemp2.jpg

Despero kicking everyoneís ass with TPÖ.

(Overpowers Martian Manhunter AND Aquaman in telepathic combat.)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...666666/2-29.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...666666/3-24.jpg

(Breaches a GL ringís defenses, and overpowers the will of Hal Jordan)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...t666666/8-9.jpg

(Mind controlling Batman, Shazam, Power Girl, Kyle Rayner, Mr Terrific, Dr Fate simultaneously)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4950/group1yq1.jpg


While Super Adaptoid and Despero are taking out X-Man, EX AM is going to attack Quasar with Dr. Druids mental attack as well. Now I know that Quasar is pretty much immune to telepathy, but Dr. Druids are mystic in nature, so unless you added to his mental defenses with X-Man, Quasar is pretty much screwed.

Quasarís magic vulnerability:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/...ability2qc2.jpg


Now by my count, that makes 2 of your guys down right out of the gate. So now all thatís left to do is triple team Mangog for the win.


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DL/LL's opening statement:

quote:

Devil Lance wrote on Jan 14th, 2007 11:31 AM:

Prep

First 10 Minutes
Ok, first off X-man telepathically introduces everyone, sharing how they all fight, think and act, aswell as a quick look at past experiences. This familiarizes the team a great deal, and has them working together seamlessly. They also share whatever knowledge they have of their opponents, which in this case isn't much, but Quasar has faced a Absorbing Man before so they'll have a basic idea of what he's capable of. Through the wonders that is telepathy this takes a minute or 2 at most.

Quasar then absorbs as much energy as possible from the environment and any distant energy sources, which powers him up.
http://img128.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img128=star.jpg

While Quasar doing this, X-Man is creating extremely powerful Psi-Shields in Mangog's mind protecting him from any telepathic attacks. This, as shown in the scan, takes only a few seconds. (The 12 telepaths in the scan below, together they were powerful enough to travel between realities. Their shields are nothing compared to X-Mans.)
http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?i...hields01gh5.jpg

X-Man then creates durable telekinetic armour for the group.
1. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...armour01cq4.jpg
2. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...armour02vr8.jpg


Last 10 Minutes
Quasar creates Quantum armour constructs for the whole team (on top of X-Man's telekinteic armour). He'll spend most of the 10 minutes minutes doing this. The longer Quasar spends on constructs the stronger and more durable they become, (an armour construct which he created in seconds withstood multiple blasts from Silver Surfer) so these armours will be extremely durable.
http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111?=surf2.jpg
http://img109.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img109?=surf2.jpg

From the earlier telepathic connection X-Man knows that Mangog has the power of a billion billion beings and he feeds on hate (see scan below), so he proceeds to telepathically feed him that emotion personified for the next few minutes, powering his already formidable strength and durability up to immense levels.
1. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...fa9d770dbs7.jpg

Now with our team standing fully armoured and ready to fight, Both X-Man and Quasar deflect the light around the team effectively making them invisible.
1. http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?...bility01jb5.jpg


The Fight Starts

The second the fight starts X-Man will create illusions scattered around the battle field. Some of these illusions will be of the people on our team, and some will be of various baddies and allies he or his allies have met throughout the years.
1. http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?...xman1913iw5.jpg

With these servings as distractions (and our team already being invisible, and X-Man shielding their presence from telepathy) the opposing team's chances of finding us a slim to naught. We'll be finding them.

This is acheived by Quasar seeking out their energy signatures, and X-Man finding their psi-signatures. Once located X-Man and Quasar will teleport each team member to their location. If everything goes right, Mangog will be facing the Adaptoid, Quasar will be facing Absorbing Man and X-Man will be facing Despero.

The rest will be expanded upon in personal posts once the topic is created...


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Old Post Jan 14th, 2007 08:07 PM
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well seeing how our team is invisble I don't think your startegy wiill work.

Your tyeam won't know who to attaack and will waste time destroying the illusions on the battle field. Letting us get in a surprise omni directional attack on your team from quasar who shileds our team from it http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?...ers338047qu.jpg stunning them and knocking them down

allowing our team to get the matchups we want

Mangog vs Superadaptoid (Dr Druid)
Dr. D is pretty powerull but his durability isn't that great so Quasar's blast should hurt him alot.

Now since Dr. D is stunned for a while it will give Mangog the time to get a ton of hits in seeing how fast his blows can be

http://www.picsaway.com/view/thor_v...-71c6c48845.jpg

that barrage of blows pretty much puts Super Adaptoid down for the count given Dr. D's poor durability and Mangog's amazing strength.
After this Mangog goes to help one of his teamates.

Shaman X-man vs Despero
I'll let Lucid explain this one

Quasar vs AM

Quasar has dealt with AM before when he was very inexperienced and still won that fight. Now he's way more experienced so this fight should be easy.

First of Quasar teleports Absorb Man's ball and chain. Then he puts AM in a series of 7 or 8 constraints and bubbles like these
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar033169iy.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar38147lm.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar38147lm.jpg

now if AM tries something stupid like becomeing the construct enrgy Quasar will just do to am what he did to the Living Laser vacum him away

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar60096kc.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar60108uj.jpg

so either AM is sttuck in a series o fquantam bubbles and constraints or if he trys to become the construct enrgy either way he'll lose eventually whtehe rit be by quasar him self or with some help from Mangog amd X-ma once there done with ttheir opponents.
Thers no way Am would be able to take Quasar and Mangog at the same time


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Old Post Jan 14th, 2007 09:08 PM
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Ooh, nice strategy guys. Should be a good match. Good luck. smile


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Ok, Lucid Post #1.
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quote:
As soon as your team approaches

The problem here is, our team doesn't approach. We teleport in, we're invisible and we're Psi-Shielded. And there's multiple "telemorphic manifestations" scattered around the battle field that you're gonna be thinking is us, at least for a few seconds.


quote:
Despero and Super Adaptoid(using Dr. Druidís abilities)will attack X-Man telepathically(IĎll leave Quasar to bigbran).

With barely any experience in the use of his powers, X-Man was able to shield his presence from Exodus, a top level telepath. Shaman X-Man is at full potential in the use of his powers, and has the skill to back it up. He will be able to shield his presence from Despero and Adaptoid. At least long enough to do what he needs to do (not to mention, X-Man's invisible and they're are multiple illusions to distract their team).
1. http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?...esence01zj9.jpg

quote:
While a case MIGHT be made about X-Man being able to stalemate Despero in a one on one TP battle,
A case certainly could be made, but that's not how this is going down. Since you guys are making no effort to hide from us, and basically waiting for us to arrive, it just makes this whole thing easier.

The split second we've teleported to your location X-man then teleports Despero a good distance underground. Not into a cavern or anything, he's teleporting him into solid ground, effectivelly taking him out of the fight. This takes a second or two at most.
1. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tation01qw1.jpg
2. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tation02vv9.jpg

Adaptoid's not going to get a chance to attack X-Man in any way (if he did somehow manage to find him), because the split second we've landed, Mangog has started pounding into him so fast, with his massive strength augmented even further by the Quantum armour and telepathic power-up he recieved earlier.
1. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?i...771c6c48vs0.jpg
Now, for those not familiar with Mangog, i suggest you read his bio to get a look at just how powerful he is. There's no way Adaptoid will be able to last with the beating he's receiving from an invisible, enhanced Mangog. And X-Man, having dealt with Despero, will be there to help if Mangog needs it (which he won't).

Meanwhile, Quasar has been dealing with Absorbing Man, and if he hasn't finished by this point, the numbers advantage has shifted solidly in our favour, and we proceed to double team him.

Quick Summary
1. Our invisible, armoured and Psi-Shielded team teleports right to our opponents location, while they are distracted by various illusions.
2. X-Man teleports Despero into solid ground.
3. Adaptoid is taken down down by an immense amount of blows from one of, if not the, strongest characters in this tournament (Mangog).
4. X-Man and Mangog proceed to help Quasar if he needs it.


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NON-OFFICIAL POST
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Just re-posting the relevant X-Man/Mangog scans that aren't working in our initial prep post. DL will fill in the Quasar ones.
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X-Man's Psi-Shielding...
1. http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?i...hields01gh5.jpg

X-Man's telekinetic armour...
1. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...armour01cq4.jpg
2. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...armour02vr8.jpg

Mangog feeds on hate...
1. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...fa9d770dbs7.jpg

Invisibility...
1. http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?...bility01jb5.jpg


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Old Post Jan 15th, 2007 12:01 AM
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unoffcial post
here are the scans from my intial write up since apparently they don't work
Quasar then absorbs as much energy as possible from the environment and any distant energy sources, which powers him up.
http://img128.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img...;image=star.jpg

X-Man is creating extremely powerful Psi-Shields in Mangog's mind protecting him from any telepathic attacks. This, as shown in the scan, takes only a few seconds. (The 12 telepaths in the scan below, together they were powerful enough to travel between realities. Their shields are nothing compared to X-Mans.)
http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?i...hields01gh5.jpg

X-Man then creates durable telekinetic armour for the group
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...armour01cq4.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...armour02vr8.jpg

Quasar creates Quantum armour constructs for the whole team (on top of X-Man's telekinteic armour). He'll spend most of the 10 minutes minutes doing this. The longer Quasar spends on constructs the stronger and more durable they become, (an armour construct which he created in seconds withstood multiple blasts from Silver Surfer) so these armours will be extremely durable.

http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar050343zo.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar050375su.jpg

From the earlier telepathic connection X-Man knows that Mangog has the power of a billion billion beings and he feeds on hate (see scan below), so he proceeds to telepathically feed him that emotion personified for the next few minutes, powering his already formidable strength and durability up to immense levels.
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...fa9d770dbs7.jpg


Now with our team standing fully armoured and ready to fight, Both X-Man and Quasar deflect the light around the team effectively making them invisible.
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?...bility01jb5.jpg

The second the fight starts X-Man will create illusions scattered around the battle field. Some of these illusions will be of the people on our team, and some will be of various baddies and allies he or his allies have met throughout the years.
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?...xman1913iw5.jpg


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Old Post Jan 15th, 2007 12:08 AM
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Wow guys nice plan. Unfortunately for your team, your plan is just not going to work. Letís revueÖ


1.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Devil Lance
The second the fight starts X-Man will create illusions scattered around the battle field. [/B]

Well the only problem with that, is that Super Adaptoid is IMMUNE to illusions.
(For the record, in this scan, SA didnít have the powers of anyone who was themselves immune to illusions at the time, so itís all him,)
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/...llusionslx7.jpg

2.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Devil Lance
well seeing how our team is invisble I don't think your startegy wiill work.

Who says that Dr. Druid has to see someone, or be up close to use his powers?

(Uses long range mental powers, without seeing the target)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/...ongrangent6.jpg
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/41/longrange2eu1.jpg
See? Not only did he not have to see Captain Marvel, when he missed it actually followed after her.(And notice that it just BARELY missed her. Since you never said anything about flying around at light speed, X-Man gets hit.)

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Devil Lance
Mangog vs Superadaptoid (Dr Druid)
Dr. D is pretty powerull but his durability isn't that great so Quasar's blast should hurt him alot.

Now since Dr. D is stunned for a while it will give Mangog the time to get a ton of hits in seeing how fast his blows can be

But your guys arenít just facing against SA as Dr. Druid. Theyíre facing SA that is as strong/durable as Capís shield(not to mention has CapĎs fighting skills), as fast as Despero, with EX AMís absorption powers(donít forget, he was ready to absorb incoming attacks) AND Dr. DruidĎs mental abilities. Meaning that he can take just about anything you can dish out.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
The problem here is, our team doesn't approach. We teleport in, we're invisible and we're Psi-Shielded. And there's multiple "telemorphic manifestations" scattered around the battle field that you're gonna be thinking is us, at least for a few seconds.

And I will admit to that being a very creative strategy, that's going to alter our game plan a bit(I'll cover how a bit later).


quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui With barely any experience in the use of his powers, X-Man was able to shield his presence from Exodus, a top level telepath. Shaman X-Man is at full potential in the use of his powers, and has the skill to back it up. He will be able to shield his presence from Despero and Adaptoid. At least long enough to do what he needs to do (not to mention, X-Man's invisible and they're are multiple illusions to distract their team).
1. http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?...esence01zj9.jpg[/B]

Well the illusions are useless against Super Adaptoid, and he's about to help Despero out in that department also(I'll get to that in just a bit).

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui A case certainly could be made, but that's not how this is going down. Since you guys are making no effort to hide from us, and basically waiting for us to arrive, it just makes this whole thing easier.][/B]

Why would we want to hide? We've got you guys right where we want you.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui The split second we've teleported to your location X-man then teleports Despero a good distance underground. Not into a cavern or anything, he's teleporting him into solid ground, effectivelly taking him out of the fight. This takes a second or two at most.
1. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tation01qw1.jpg
2. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tation02vv9.jpg[/B]


Two problems with that. First, I don't think that kind of BFR is allowed in this tourney(have to check with batdude). Second, even if you are allowed(though I'm pretty sure your not), Despero would just teleport back(he teleports in the last panel)...
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/...eportingbn1.jpg

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui Adaptoid's not going to get a chance to attack X-Man in any way (if he did somehow manage to find him), because the split second we've landed, Mangog has started pounding into him so fast, with his massive strength augmented even further by the Quantum armour and telepathic power-up he recieved earlier.
1. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?i...771c6c48vs0.jpg
Now, for those not familiar with Mangog, i suggest you read his bio to get a look at just how powerful he is. There's no way Adaptoid will be able to last with the beating he's receiving from an invisible, enhanced Mangog. And X-Man, having dealt with Despero, will be there to help if Mangog needs it (which he won't).
Adaptoid at this point is pretty much a mirror image of our suped up EX AM. IF Mangog somehow managed to get the jump on him, physical attacks just arn't the way to go against someone who can absorb your strength whenever you make contact with him(not that he's really going to need to much, seeing as how he's as durable as Cap's shield).

[QUOTE=8165639]Originally posted by Lucid Lui Meanwhile, Quasar has been dealing with Absorbing Man, and if he hasn't finished by this point, the numbers advantage has shifted solidly in our favour, and we proceed to double team him.[/B]

Yeah...Quasar's probably dead now. But I'll leave that to bigbran to describe.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui Quick Summary
1. Our invisible, armoured and Psi-Shielded team teleports right to our opponents location, while they are distracted by various illusions.[/B]

Illusions won't work.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui [2. X-Man teleports Despero into solid ground.[/B]

It's either not allowed, or I teleport back.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui [3. Adaptoid is taken down by an immense amount of blows from one of, if not the, strongest characters in this tournament (Mangog).[/B]

Not when all he's doing is using physical attacks against someone who's as durable as Cap's shield, and is able to absorb the force of every punch that connects(which also weakens Mangog, by the way).
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lucid Lui [4. X-Man and Mangog proceed to help Quasar if he needs it. [/B]

Oh he'll need it, but those guys are going to be a bit too busy to lend a hand.

Anyway, seeing as how you guys teleported in the way you , itís going to change our game plan just a bit(but not all that much really).

Now weíve covered Super Adaptoid being immune to illusions. Well the way I see it, as soon as those illusions start flying around, Super Adaptoid notices, and letís EX AM and Despero know telepathically and shows them the illusionís the same way(so our guys arenít distracted). Don't forget, our entire team has super human reaction speeds, which put them well ahead of Quasar and Mangog, so their wonít be much in the way of attacks before this is accomplished. In fact, Super Adaptoid and EX AM, both have the digitized computer mind of Ultron, and THAT was then enhanced even further by the speed of Despero. Then Super Adaptoid attacks X-Man with Dr. Druidís mental abilities before Mangog can even attack(unless you have proof that Mangog is that much faster than someone who can interrupt a blitz from Flash). While Super Adaptoid may not be able to take down X-Man in a psychic battle alone(though I honestly donít remember X-Man going up against someone who combined magic with their mental attacks), at the very least it will indicate his position to Despero(who then attacks X-Man along with the Super Adaptoid), which puts X-Man down for the count. Then itís just a matter of the two of them taking down Mangog together(and since Quasar should be down at this point along with X-Man, heís no longer invisible OR psi shielded).


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I would like to say before I start good luck, and this should be good.
Also none of your scans work for me, in the prep phase (seen them now).

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Devil Lance
Prep

First 10 Minutes
Ok, first off X-man telepathically introduces everyone, sharing how they all fight, think and act, aswell as a quick look at past experiences. This familiarizes the team a great deal, and has them working together seamlessly. They also share whatever knowledge they have of their opponents, which in this case isn't much, but Quasar has faced a Absorbing Man before so they'll have a basic idea of what he's capable of. Through the wonders that is telepathy this takes a minute or 2 at most.
Now, yes Quaser has fought AM before, but when he did, AM was just a stupid brawler. Do you really want your whole team going into battle thinking they are up against a big dummy who just absorbs things, because, if it goes like what you said, then your guys are in for a rude awakening. Well, too late for that.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Devil Lance
Quasar then absorbs as much energy as possible from the environment and any distant energy sources, which powers him up.
http://img128.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img128=star.jpg
I donít really see how this helps him against what he will be trying to do to AMÖ

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
From the earlier telepathic connection X-Man knows that Mangog has the power of a billion billion beings and he feeds on hate (see scan below), so he proceeds to telepathically feed him that emotion personified for the next few minutes, powering his already formidable strength and durability up to immense levels.
1. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...fa9d770dbs7.jpg
Strangely enough, though, if Mangog is fighting SA, then I think we should be good, because of our duribility and speed, since he is made out of the same material as Captain Americaís shield. Thor has also taken a lot of blows by Mangog, and that thing doesn't really help to how much you will upgrade him. Plus, has Mangog ever had an established limit?

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now with our team standing fully armoured and ready to fight, Both X-Man and Quasar deflect the light around the team effectively making them invisible.
1. http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?...bility01jb5.jpg
Our whole team are telepaths, and we donít look at you, we read your minds. Also, they havenít done this for anyone else, only on themselves, so shouldnít only X-Man and Quaser be invisible? So Mangog is still visible. Also, unless your whole team is going to stand together to whole fight, that wouldnít work.
But, Dr. Druid doesnít have to see people to hit them,with a mind whammy, just for your information.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
The Fight Starts

The second the fight starts X-Man will create illusions scattered around the battle field. Some of these illusions will be of the people on our team, and some will be of various baddies and allies he or his allies have met throughout the years.
1. http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?...xman1913iw5.jpg
Why would you make illusions of people we arenít fighting? Obviously we shouldnít worry about them. Also, your illusions wonít work on SA (as in Darthís scan), and Iíll let Darth deal with Despero.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
With these servings as distractions (and our team already being invisible, and X-Man shielding their presence from telepathy)
Now, the only one in your team that will be shielded from telepathy will be Mangog. You didnít give the other characters this, and since SA, and Absorbing Man have Dr Druidís telepathy, Nate wonít be shielded either.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
If everything goes right, Mangog will be facing the Adaptoid, Quasar will be facing Absorbing Man and X-Man will be facing Despero.

The rest will be expanded upon in personal posts once the topic is created...
I can deal with the lineups. How is teleporting to the battle field going to help you, other than getting the fights you want?

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
well seeing how our team is invisble I don't think your startegy wiill work.

First off, Dr Druid doesnít need to see people to drill them with a mind attack (as in Darthís scans).

All of our team are telepaths, meaning we attack your mind. I sense a mind, and I attack.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Your tyeam won't know who to attaack and will waste time destroying the illusions on the battle field. Letting us get in a surprise omni directional attack on your team from quasar who shileds our team from it http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?...ers338047qu.jpg stunning them and knocking them down

allowing our team to get the matchups we want


That attack didnít even phase Beast, how is it going to surprise our whole team?

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Mangog vs Superadaptoid (Dr Druid)
Dr. D is pretty powerull but his durability isn't that great so Quasar's blast should hurt him alot.

I wonít be stunned (if Black Panther and Beast werenít, then why should someone made out of Capís shield?).
If anything, I should actually laugh that attack off.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now since Dr. D is stunned for a while it will give Mangog the time to get a ton of hits in seeing how fast his blows can be

http://www.picsaway.com/view/thor_v...-71c6c48845.jpg

that barrage of blows pretty much puts Super Adaptoid down for the count given Dr. D's poor durability and Mangog's amazing strength.
After this Mangog goes to help one of his teamates.

OK, SA has Desperoís speed, Mangog may be fast, but he isnít that fast to land a couple unanswered hits on SA. And Mangog isnít going to go help his teammates if SA has anything to say about it.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Quasar vs AM

Quasar has dealt with AM before when he was very inexperienced and still won that fight. Now he's way more experienced so this fight should be easy.
He managed to outsmart a being with the IQ of Hulk, great feat. Now, AM is smart, and he wonít be so easily taken down, in fact, he wonít be taken down at all against Quaser.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
First of Quasar teleports Absorb Man's ball and chain. Then he puts AM in a series of 7 or 8 constraints and bubbles like these
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar033169iy.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar38147lm.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar38147lm.jpg

What you neglected to mention, was that I donít have to do anything physical (if you can ever get me in those bubbles with Desperoís speed). My plan was simple, and it still carries:
All I have to do is hit you with a couple mind whammies, and break out of the bubble later (if you get me in, that is). Quaser may be immune to mind attacks, but he sure isnít immune to mystical attacks. Dr. Druidís are mystical in nature, so Quaser is screwed, then I break out of the bubble, after Quaser goes down.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
now if AM tries something stupid like becomeing the construct enrgy Quasar will just do to am what he did to the Living Laser vacum him away

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar60096kc.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar60108uj.jpg

so either AM is sttuck in a series o fquantam bubbles and constraints or if he trys to become the construct enrgy either way he'll lose eventually whtehe rit be by quasar him self or with some help from Mangog amd X-ma once there done with ttheir opponents.
Thers no way Am would be able to take Quasar and Mangog at the same time

Now, if it went as you say:
You say that Quaser would absorb him, if I turned into that energy?
Here is a case of the same thing happening to Thor.
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/...hor43618hn4.jpg

Thor, who has complete control over lightning, couldnít contain him. It overloaded his hammer, that has absorbed stuff comparable to what Quaser has done.

So, in short, no, you wonít absorb me.
After AM has quickly disposed of Quaser, AM will go help one of our other guys.
And if you get me in a bubble, I can easily get out of it, and go back to my beginning form.
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So, to just sum it up.

SA doesnít have Dr. Druidís durability like you guys first thought. He has the duribilty of Captain Americaís shield, and the ability to also absorb vibrations (or whatever Mangog really throws at him).
Mangog is visible, unlike the others.
Your illusions wonít work.
Even if Quaser and X-Man are invisible, two (Darth will deal with Despero) of our guys can track them.
Quaser wonít be trapping AM in a bubble , and be done with him (if he can even get AM with it in the first place).
Quaser canít absorb AM.
Quaser canít beat AM.
I will just mind rape Quaser as soon as he tries anything (I don't even need to fight him). We know Dr. Druid's are mystical, and we know that Quaser don't deal so well with the mystical. Quaser may be immune to telepathy, but with mystical damage added, he goes down... hard!
Your matching up, has done more for us really, then for your guys.


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Originally posted by bigbran
I would like to say before I start good luck, and this should be good.
Also none of your scans work for me, in the prep phase (seen them now).

Now, yes Quaser has fought AM before, but when he did, AM was just a stupid brawler. Do you really want your whole team going into battle thinking they are up against a big dummy who just absorbs things, because, if it goes like what you said, then your guys are in for a rude awakening. Well, too late for that.

I donít really see how this helps him against what he will be trying to do to AMÖ

Strangely enough, though, if Mangog is fighting SA, then I think we should be good, because of our duribility and speed, since he is made out of the same material as Captain Americaís shield. Thor has also taken a lot of blows by Mangog, and that thing doesn't really help to how much you will upgrade him. Plus, has Mangog ever had an established limit?

Our whole team are telepaths, and we donít look at you, we read your minds. Also, they havenít done this for anyone else, only on themselves, so shouldnít only X-Man and Quaser be invisible? So Mangog is still visible. Also, unless your whole team is going to stand together to whole fight, that wouldnít work.
But, Dr. Druid doesnít have to see people to hit them,with a mind whammy, just for your information.

Why would you make illusions of people we arenít fighting? Obviously we shouldnít worry about them. Also, your illusions wonít work on SA (as in Darthís scan), and Iíll let Darth deal with Despero.

Now, the only one in your team that will be shielded from telepathy will be Mangog. You didnít give the other characters this, and since SA, and Absorbing Man have Dr Druidís telepathy, Nate wonít be shielded either.

I can deal with the lineups. How is teleporting to the battle field going to help you, other than getting the fights you want?


First off, Dr Druid doesnít need to see people to drill them with a mind attack (as in Darthís scans).

All of our team are telepaths, meaning we attack your mind. I sense a mind, and I attack.



That attack didnít even phase Beast, how is it going to surprise our whole team?


I wonít be stunned (if Black Panther and Beast werenít, then why should someone made out of Capís shield?).
If anything, I should actually laugh that attack off.


OK, SA has Desperoís speed, Mangog may be fast, but he isnít that fast to land a couple unanswered hits on SA. And Mangog isnít going to go help his teammates if SA has anything to say about it.

He managed to outsmart a being with the IQ of Hulk, great feat. Now, AM is smart, and he wonít be so easily taken down, in fact, he wonít be taken down at all against Quaser.


What you neglected to mention, was that I donít have to do anything physical (if you can ever get me in those bubbles with Desperoís speed). My plan was simple, and it still carries:
All I have to do is hit you with a couple mind whammies, and break out of the bubble later (if you get me in, that is). Quaser may be immune to mind attacks, but he sure isnít immune to mystical attacks. Dr. Druidís are mystical in nature, so Quaser is screwed, then I break out of the bubble, after Quaser goes down.


Now, if it went as you say:
You say that Quaser would absorb him, if I turned into that energy?
Here is a case of the same thing happening to Thor.
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/...hor43618hn4.jpg

Thor, who has complete control over lightning, couldnít contain him. It overloaded his hammer, that has absorbed stuff comparable to what Quaser has done.

So, in short, no, you wonít absorb me.
After AM has quickly disposed of Quaser, AM will go help one of our other guys.
And if you get me in a bubble, I can easily get out of it, and go back to my beginning form.
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So, to just sum it up.

SA doesnít have Dr. Druidís durability like you guys first thought. He has the duribilty of Captain Americaís shield, and the ability to also absorb vibrations (or whatever Mangog really throws at him).
Mangog is visible, unlike the others.
Your illusions wonít work.
Even if Quaser and X-Man are invisible, two (Darth will deal with Despero) of our guys can track them.
Quaser wonít be trapping AM in a bubble , and be done with him (if he can even get AM with it in the first place).
Quaser canít absorb AM.
Quaser canít beat AM.
I will just mind rape Quaser as soon as he tries anything (I don't even need to fight him). We know Dr. Druid's are mystical, and we know that Quaser don't deal so well with the mystical. Quaser may be immune to telepathy, but with mystical damage added, he goes down... hard!
Your matching up, has done more for us really, then for your guys.

dl post 2
First off mangog is nivisble

seecondly your really overestimating Dr. Druids telepathic abilities theres no way that Dr. druid is even close to Enchantress in power.

And anyways do you have any proof Enchantress was using tp it seems like she was just using as speel to take control of Quasar
Casting a speel is different then Telepathy and thats what your scans were showing Dr. druid was uing an dTeleptahy doesn't effect Quasar in the least as shown here against Overmind
http://img448.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar150060ol.jpg
and moon dragon
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?...nity02066rc.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?...nity02071to.jpg
again theres no type of telepathy thats works on quasar.
So there goes that strategy
No about my omnidirectional blast that scan shows an inexperienced and tired Quasar using that blast. A full health expreinced much more powerful quasar whos around alot mre durable allies so he wont be araid of using his full power will be able to make a much more potent blast
and remeber Quasar still has a little of the nergy he absorbed during prep so his blast should be even powwerfull like here
http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar160343ry.jpg

now on to Quasar not being able to absorb AM I have to disagree

Quasar absorbs Ego the lving palnet which not even silver surfer was able to do
http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?i...urity3265qp.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?i...urity3270yf.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?i...urity3284wm.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?i...urity3291nq.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?i...urity3302ox.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?...urity3352jq.jpg

so if Quasar can absorb Ego im thinking he could absorb AM

and about the bubble it snot just one bubble there are multiple ones and not even the combine dmigth of some very powerful people could break could break just one of them as seen here
http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar38137pe.jpg
http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?...asar38147lm.jpg

and here
http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar032126xd.jpg

so its going to be a very long time before AM gets out of the constrcuts

also I also think your underestimating Quasar's reflexes
heres Quasar stopping Mahkari in the middle of a speed blitz while all ready beaten down from a previous battle
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9590/makkarisa8.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar120103bd.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6472/makkari1fn2.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2280/makkari2uk1.jpg

and as for mangogs speed his fists were moving so fast that not even asagrdian technology could keep a lock on them. So none of your team is speed blitzing us in the slightest.

so to sum it up
Quasar can absorb AM
Telepathy won't work
Mangog is invisble
you aren't faster than us
AM won'tbe able to breal out of Quasar's shield constrvcuts for a long while
I'll Leave Lucid to deal with the X-man parts


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Since itís pretty slow, hereís some stuff just to back up some of the stuff weíve saidÖ

Mangog vs. Super Adaptoid
First thingís first, Super Adaptoid WONíT be stunned by the opening attack from Quasar, because he was braced to absorb incoming energy when the fight began. So all of the energy that managed to reach him was absorbed by him(thus making him even MORE powerful in fact).

Mangog may have shown some speed with his fist in the post provided for him, but that still doesnít make him a speedster. Super Adaptoid is at this point, as fast as Despero PLUS the amped up EX AM. His mental processing speed is equal to the COMBINED minds of himself(which is highly advanced on its own), the digital computer mind of Ultron, AND the mental processing speed of Despero(who can interrupt a speed blitz from the Flash). Look closelyÖ

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/...additionlx6.jpg

See, when AM absorbs off of someone, their ability doesnít replace his own, itís added to it. So at this point Super Adaptoid has the COMBINED speed/reflexes of those characters. Not only does that mean that he will be able to inform the other about the illusions and attack X-Man with Dr. Druidís MYSTIC mental attack, it also means that thereís no way Mangog will have ANY kind of speed advantage when the Super Adaptoid gets around to kicking his ass.

Mangog is admittedly strong, but thereís NO WAY heís strong enough to manhandle Super Adaptoid when heís got the strength/durability of Caps shield, is absorbing the force of the punches themselves(making Mangog weaker in fact), and was actually boosted by Quasar at the outset of the match. Caps shield alone has taken shots from Thor, Hulk, and God only knows who/what else without damage. Under the current conditions, Mangog has approximately ZERO chance of hurting him.

Absorbing Man takes a bomb that would have killed THOUSANDS(and Cap theorized tens of thousands) without flinching after touching Capís shieldÖ

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/...eldblastib2.jpg

Seeing as how Super Adaptoid was set to absorb attacks at the outset, Mangog punching at him in that Quantum and TK armor was a REALLY bad idea. Every punch that Mangog manages to land, will weaken those armors as Super Adaptoid absorbs the Quantum and TK energy. So Mangog wonít even have the armor for more than a punch or two. And all of THAT energy will be added to Super Adaptoidís also, so thanks for adding the power/durability of Quantum Armor and TK Armor to his stats.

As bigbran pointed out, I donít think that either Quasar or X-Man have ever made someone else invisible the way you described. Light deflection is a pretty complicated thing, and I really canít see either of them sustaining something like that when theyíre all spread out, and fighting different enemies.



Despero vs. X-man

A lot of stock is being put in X-Manís abilities(especially his concentration) at this point, and I honestly donít see him living up to whatís expected of him. For right now, heís supposed to beÖ.

1. Sustaining an uber powerful psi shield on Mangog.

2. Helping keep himself, Mangog, and Quasar invisible(which is a difficult feat in and of itself since heís doing it by manipulating light with his tk, and not just trying to do it telepathically).

3. Sustain three separate suits of TK armor, when in the issue with him and the Hulk he only created one at a time(and had to concentrate to keep Hulkís active unless Iím mistaken).

4. Sustain multiple illusions all over the battlefield.

5. Engage Despero in psychic combat.

Iíll credit him with being able divide his concentration enough to pull off 2(maybe even three on a good day) of those feats at the same time, but doing all 5 of them is a SERIOUS stretch, unless some proof comes forth that indicates heíd be able to sustain all of them at once.

With Super Adaptoid indicating X-Manís position, Despero will have no trouble engaging him telepathic combat. As thin as X-Manís abilities are being stretched in this fight, thereís no way heís going have enough in reserve to take down Despero too.(By the way, I checked with batdude and teleporting Despero for a BFR isnít allowed.)

Despero messing with the minds of everyone in the countryÖ
http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?...llyattacph1.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?...llyattaces4.jpg

And donít forget the scans Iíve already provided of him overpowering Halís will(not to mention the mental defenses of his GL ring), beating Aquaman and Martian Manhunter simultaneously in a TP battle, and Mind controlling Batman, Shazam, Power Girl, Kyle Rayner, Mr Terrific, Dr Fate simultaneously.

So itís all the power Iíve shown from Despero vs. X-man, whoís abilities are being taxes to the very limits, if heís able to sustain all those effects simaltaniously in the first place(I really donít think he can). In my mind, I see Despero as the clear winner in that situation.


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Originally posted by darthgoober
Since itís pretty slow, hereís some stuff just to back up some of the stuff weíve saidÖ

Mangog vs. Super Adaptoid
First thingís first, Super Adaptoid WONíT be stunned by the opening attack from Quasar, because he was braced to absorb incoming energy when the fight began. So all of the energy that managed to reach him was absorbed by him(thus making him even MORE powerful in fact).

Mangog may have shown some speed with his fist in the post provided for him, but that still doesnít make him a speedster. Super Adaptoid is at this point, as fast as Despero PLUS the amped up EX AM. His mental processing speed is equal to the COMBINED minds of himself(which is highly advanced on its own), the digital computer mind of Ultron, AND the mental processing speed of Despero(who can interrupt a speed blitz from the Flash). Look closelyÖ

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/...additionlx6.jpg

See, when AM absorbs off of someone, their ability doesnít replace his own, itís added to it. So at this point Super Adaptoid has the COMBINED speed/reflexes of those characters. Not only does that mean that he will be able to inform the other about the illusions and attack X-Man with Dr. Druidís MYSTIC mental attack, it also means that thereís no way Mangog will have ANY kind of speed advantage when the Super Adaptoid gets around to kicking his ass.

Mangog is admittedly strong, but thereís NO WAY heís strong enough to manhandle Super Adaptoid when heís got the strength/durability of Caps shield, is absorbing the force of the punches themselves(making Mangog weaker in fact), and was actually boosted by Quasar at the outset of the match. Caps shield alone has taken shots from Thor, Hulk, and God only knows who/what else without damage. Under the current conditions, Mangog has approximately ZERO chance of hurting him.

Absorbing Man takes a bomb that would have killed THOUSANDS(and Cap theorized tens of thousands) without flinching after touching Capís shieldÖ

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/...eldblastib2.jpg

Seeing as how Super Adaptoid was set to absorb attacks at the outset, Mangog punching at him in that Quantum and TK armor was a REALLY bad idea. Every punch that Mangog manages to land, will weaken those armors as Super Adaptoid absorbs the Quantum and TK energy. So Mangog wonít even have the armor for more than a punch or two. And all of THAT energy will be added to Super Adaptoidís also, so thanks for adding the power/durability of Quantum Armor and TK Armor to his stats.

As bigbran pointed out, I donít think that either Quasar or X-Man have ever made someone else invisible the way you described. Light deflection is a pretty complicated thing, and I really canít see either of them sustaining something like that when theyíre all spread out, and fighting different enemies.



Despero vs. X-man

A lot of stock is being put in X-Manís abilities(especially his concentration) at this point, and I honestly donít see him living up to whatís expected of him. For right now, heís supposed to beÖ.

1. Sustaining an uber powerful psi shield on Mangog.

2. Helping keep himself, Mangog, and Quasar invisible(which is a difficult feat in and of itself since heís doing it by manipulating light with his tk, and not just trying to do it telepathically).

3. Sustain three separate suits of TK armor, when in the issue with him and the Hulk he only created one at a time(and had to concentrate to keep Hulkís active unless Iím mistaken).

4. Sustain multiple illusions all over the battlefield.

5. Engage Despero in psychic combat.

Iíll credit him with being able divide his concentration enough to pull off 2(maybe even three on a good day) of those feats at the same time, but doing all 5 of them is a SERIOUS stretch, unless some proof comes forth that indicates heíd be able to sustain all of them at once.

With Super Adaptoid indicating X-Manís position, Despero will have no trouble engaging him telepathic combat. As thin as X-Manís abilities are being stretched in this fight, thereís no way heís going have enough in reserve to take down Despero too.(By the way, I checked with batdude and teleporting Despero for a BFR isnít allowed.)

Despero messing with the minds of everyone in the countryÖ
http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?...llyattacph1.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?...llyattaces4.jpg

And donít forget the scans Iíve already provided of him overpowering Halís will(not to mention the mental defenses of his GL ring), beating Aquaman and Martian Manhunter simultaneously in a TP battle, and Mind controlling Batman, Shazam, Power Girl, Kyle Rayner, Mr Terrific, Dr Fate simultaneously.

So itís all the power Iíve shown from Despero vs. X-man, whoís abilities are being taxes to the very limits, if heís able to sustain all that at once(I really donít think he can). In my mind, I see Despero as the clear winner in that situation.

DL post 3
It was a suprise attack he'd be too surpised by the shock of the opening attack he wouldn't be reayd for an attack from behind .He won't be absorbing anyting.


I'll let Lucid explain x-man
except to say Mangogs Telepathic blocks were put in before the match started so they shouldn't be starining on anyone

Yeah Despero was able to get pa th psi defences of GL but he wasn't able to get in the head of Superman thats PIS. roll eyes (sarcastic)

I'd Just like to point out that all of those heroes were under the influence of the Seven deadly sins so they were much weaker willed then they usually would be.

Lastly I don't really think you want to use that Despero vs MM/ Aquaman feat seeing it shows that Despero's durability isn't that great
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20001.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20002.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20003.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20004.jpg
If shark bites make despero bleed her is going to be extremely messed up by Quasars opening blast
which will be akin to this blast
http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar160343ry.jpg
which leave willleave Despero vulnerable to an A**kicking from X-man which Lucid will deal with
now while SA is able to see past illusions hthe other characters on your team aren't so for the brief moments before SA is able to tell them that the illusions arne't real they will be startled enough for them to be left open for Quasra's attack and they wil not be able to barce them selves.

Now on to Mangog vs SA
Mangog is not limited to close range attacks he also can fire enrgy blasts so we don't have to worry about SA absorbingMangog's tk armor or Quantam Armor.

So to sum evrything up
1. The illusins will distract their team enough that they won't be able to brace themselves for our opening attack.
2. Despero has bhad his skin punctured and has bled for shark bites so our opening attack should mess him up very badly. leaving him easy pickings for X-man which Lucid will explain.
3. Mangog ha slong range enryg blasts so SA will not be absorbing any of his armor.
4. Mangog's tp block wer eput on during prep so they won't straina nyone.


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DL, the scans of the Despero vs. Aqua/MM fight aren't working.


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DL, the scans of the Despero vs. Aqua/MM fight aren't working.


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oops heres the link to the page that has the scans
the aquaman vs despero fight scans are under aquaman despero
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Old Post Jan 17th, 2007 01:38 AM
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Post #2 - Response to Devil Lance.
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OK, now where is your proof that Mangog is invisible?
I gave you why he won't be, but I am supposed to take your word that he will be invisible?
OK, here again is why he won't be:

X-Man hasn't demonstrated that he can do that for anyone else. As far as we know from those scans, is that his power was continually working for him to be like that.

And, he can indeed turn Mangog invisible, but for it to keep working, he would need to be really close, or hold hands with X-Man for the whole time.

X-Man distorts the light around himself, not others.

Now, I haven't seen proof that Quaser can do it, but it would be OK if he could. Doesn't matter either way.

Also, how are they going to distort the light around the shields you put up?

So, Mangog is visible, and he is vunerable.
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I don't need to prove that he is as powerful as her (even though he is most likely). Quaser didn't say anything about how powerful the magic had to be, he said he was useless against magic.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/...ability2qc2.jpg
Now, that Quaser's useless against magic, we know that AM will be taking him out. What is Dr. Druid's type of attacks, you ask?

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/...detailedjh6.jpg
Yes, magic (you also overlooked this part in the prep phase).

Also, my guy will be continually hitting him, not just once, until he goes down. Quaser won't be taking too many magic mind blasts, until he goes down.
Even if he takes the first one I will be dishing out, I will hit him again, and again, until he taste dirt.
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We know he can take telepathy.
Those scans were irrelevent.
But, I find it interesting how his Quantum Bands project a psi-block.
Those same things can't take magic.
So, when I cream him with my telepathy, those psi-blocks will be hindered non-existing, and I won't just be hitting him with magic, I will be hitting him with the full force of my attack too.
So, he should be going down in the first attack, but if by some miracle he stands, he is gone in the next one.
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You also forget that two of the characters I can use (Darth will deal with Despero), are made out of Cap's shield material. His shield absorbs attacks through it's vibranium.
His omni-attack, will at best, get their attention.
Even if it gets more than that, your whole strategy behind it was to put Mangog in a position to hammer on SA (which I will get to later), nothing really more with it. It won't hurt our guys like you think, and you also forgot that as soon as the battle started, you guys were busy making illusions, and then you were going to suprise us with an omni-blast, when we were fighting those illusions (in which we already disproved them working against us).
So, how are we not going to be ready for that omni-blast again?
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OK, I know Quaser has absorbed him, but you are forgetting that Thor has also absorbed a simular thing (a blast that would destroy a 5th of the universe to be exact). While Thor was able to do that, he was still overloaded by his own energy that came out of the hammer.

Also I gave Quaser absorbing AM as a hypothical situation, in which I turned into your energy, and tried to escape. You said you would absorb me (in which I disproved).
You forgot that as soon as you put me in a bubble (which is still highly unlikely), I would be mindraping you. As soon as you come near AM (or when you try that suprise omni-blast that won't work), you will be attacked mentally.
So, Quaser goes down, and I still have counters to your other attacks, if they somehow went that way.
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Funny, I won't be trying to break the bubble with brute strength, I'm not stupid.
If I turn into that bubbles properties, I can easily phase through it.
I will only break out of it (if you get me in it), after I dispose of Quaser, which won't take long.
Also, do Quaser's bubbles last after he gets KOed? (because then I wouldn't even have to use a second or two of my time)
Either way though, I'm not staying in a bubble, if you get me in it.
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What do your reflexes have to do with getting attacked mentally?
Also, when I'm using my speed, I won't have my back turned agaisnt you, and I won't be running around you. So, those scans, still don't prove your getting me in a bubble.

Unless your talking about a bubble, in which it doesn't matter if you get me in a bubble or not.
Also, I have Despero's speed to help protect me against him getting me in a bubble. I'm not going to be going fast the entire time, just to avoid your attacks.

Plus, you forgot that I would attack you as soon as you were matched up against me, so that would mean, that while you were trying to do your omni-blast (bad move on your part), I would hit you hard with a magic mental attack.
So, you most likely, won't even get the chance to try to get me in a bubble. But, if you do, I will avoid it. But if it does hit me, I won't care.

But again, it doesn't matter if it works or not, because Quaser is still going down. Then it is simply a matter of getting out (if you get me in it), and going to help one of my teammates.
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Yes, his FISTS were moving fast, not his BODY. He has to get close to get the chance to pummel on SA.

It won't work. The omni-blast is to get Mangog in the position to hammer on SA, who is still made out of Cap's shield.
At first you thought we were only as durible as Dr. Druid, in which you probably would have beat SA good, but no, he is as durible as Cap's shield, so it doesn't matter if it works or not. Your not putting him down like Thor went down in those scans.
Also, in those scans, Mangog cheap shotted Thor (it's not the greatest speed feat in which this happened). You won't get the same chance that Mangog had on Thor (mostly due to the omni-blast not working out as planned). But even if you did, Cap's shield is way more durible than just Thor.

So since, the omni-blast won't be stunning our characters like you though, Mangog won't be in the position that he got on Thor.
Even if it did, my guy is more than durible enough to take a few.

Also, since I have Despero's speed, Mangog will also have another way of not landing those hits.
His fists may be fast against an unsuspecting fighter, but he still isn't hitting our guy.

And since it will probably end up in a stalemate, it's all a matter of AM coming out to double team Mangog (since Darth will most likely not need help).

Mangog goes down, and if Darth's guy is still fighting X-Man (probably not), we will triple-team X-Man, and we win.
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now on to Mangog vs SA
Mangog is not limited to close range attacks he also can fire enrgy blasts so we don't have to worry about SA absorbingMangog's tk armor or Quantam Armor.
Except that you said that Mangog would be pounding on SA.
Are you changing strategy?

Also, Mangog is a complete physical combatant.
He may have some lang range attacks, but he isn't going to pass up hitting his attacker.

So basically, now you want Mangog to go out of character and back away to fire long range attacks, cause that is the only way he is avoiding getting his amour absorbed.

Those won't work either, and after AM is done with Quaser, he is in a world of hurting.
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Originally posted by Devil Lance
It was a suprise attack he'd be too surpised by the shock of the opening attack he wouldn't be reayd for an attack from behind .
When in the opening post, did you guys say that you were attacking us from behind?
You said you would teleport, but I don't remember from behind.
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So:

Quaser can't absorb AM (irrelevent, since I won't give him the chance to try).

AM's mind attacks are more than enough to take out Quaser.

Mangog ISN'T invisible unless we take your word for it... Mangog is right out there in the open the whole time. Unless you can somehow prove otherwise.

Why would it matter if we were faster than you, we never claimed to be. Just claimed to avoid a bubble (doesn't matter if it lands, I'm still taking out Quaser), or avoid Mangog (doesn't matter if you land, you aren't getting the chance to attack us like you said, and if you do, SA is more durible than Thor by a long shot). But, we might just very well be faster than you. Still doesn't really matter either way though.

No, no, no, if they do land, after I take out Quaser, I can break out of them in seconds. And, you think I will just use physical attacks, but I have other ways (as I said).
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So, for my part (I already debunked what you said):

I will attack Quaser as soon as he comes near to pull off something (omni-blast), which should take him down. But if not, another mind attack will take him down for sure.

The omni-blast won't be as effective as you guys first thought. Two of our guys are made out of Cap's shield (I'll let Darth deal with Depsero).
Which will severely cut the effectiveness of you attack.

SA won't be suprised from the omni-blast. And after it, he will avoid Mangog's attack. Or if they land, SA is durible enough to take it.
Plus, Mangog's fists are only fast, not his whole body, so that will also go against it, unless SA is a foot away from him (but I got speed on my side too).

Quaser won't trap AM in a bubble. Right after (or before) the omni-blast he also has to deal with AM's magic based telepathy. Plus, he also has to deal with AM's speed. So he won't be getting him in it.
But like I said before, it doesn't matter if he does or not, so that is useless.

So, after that, AM will go double team Mangog. After we take out Mangog, it could quite possibly be a triple team on X-Man.
Then we take it.


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Old Post Jan 17th, 2007 02:52 AM
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dl post 4

did you look at any of previous posts

A. AM is nowehre near as fast as Quasar
B. Dr Druids "telepathic" powers are not magic based as they were there even before he learned magic they were just latent untill Tibetan lama unlocked them
[url]http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/drdruid.htm[/url]
So DR. Druiods telepathic powers ra enot derived from magic making his tgp attacks useless against Quasar.
Anways Enchnatress is not a telepath and just used a mind control spell on Quasra which he was able to snap himself out of in a short time since his quantam bands have saftety measures against magical attacks aswell.
You have no proof that
A. Dr. Druids telpathy is magical in nature or
B. His power is anywhere near the power of Enchantress whose "Spell" Quasar was able to breal free from.
C. Enchantress was using magical tp against Quasr which she wasn't she was just using a speel which is alot different from Dr. Druids non magical tp

So there goers that startegy down the drain.
and Quasar can absorb AM
Ego the Living Planet> AM
not to mention the fact that Quasar absorbs stars in seconds
[url]http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar160332nx.jpg[/url]

so your telepathy won't work
Quasar can bsorb AM
and you will get hit by my teams surpise attack


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Old Post Jan 17th, 2007 03:13 AM
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Devil Lance
DL post 3
It was a suprise attack he'd be too surpised by the shock of the opening attack he wouldn't be reayd for an attack from behind .He won't be absorbing anyting.

You never said that you were teleporting behind us(for that matter why would you, since you where counting on being invisible and distracting us with illusions, I think someoneís trying to pull something). Anyway it doesnít matter, Super Adaptoid(and EX AM for that matter) was braced to absorb incoming attacks, that means that he automatically absorbed any energy from Quasarís omni blast that managed to reach him(and since Quasar specifically teleported by EX AM who was also in absorption mode, not much of it will).



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Originally posted by Devil Lance
I'll let Lucid explain x-man
except to say Mangogs Telepathic blocks were put in before the match started so they shouldn't be starining on anyone .

Do you have a single instance of him actually being able to sustain a psi shield on another person without consciously sustaining it, or while he himself is involved in combat?


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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Yeah Despero was able to get pa th psi defences of GL but he wasn't able to get in the head of Superman thats PIS. roll eyes (sarcastic)

What can I say, itís one of the perks of being DCís cash cow(for Supes I mean). Who else can you think of that resisted? Cause I have instances of GL, Batman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Shazam,Power Girl,Kyle Rayner,Mr Terrific, and Dr Fate succoming to Despero. Plus an instance of his messing with the minds of the whole damn country.



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Originally posted by Devil Lance
]I'd Just like to point out that all of those heroes were under the influence of the Seven deadly sins so they were much weaker willed then they usually would be..

What, and you donít think X-Man will be in similar shape even with all the crap you guys have him trying to do(which no one has actually proved he could pull off at the same time yet).


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Originally posted by Devil Lance
]Lastly I don't really think you want to use that Despero vs MM/ Aquaman feat seeing it shows that Despero's durability isn't that great
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20001.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20002.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20003.jpg
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/atta...spero%20004.jpg
If shark bites make despero bleed her is going to be extremely messed up by Quasars opening blast
which will be akin to this blast
http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?...sar160343ry.jpg
which leave willleave Despero vulnerable to an A**kicking from X-man which Lucid will deal with
now while SA is able to see past illusions hthe other characters on your team aren't so for the brief moments before SA is able to tell them that the illusions arne't real they will be startled enough for them to be left open for Quasra's attack and they wil not be able to barce them selves. .

Except that the shark incident is countered by showings of durability like thisÖ

http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?...erovsjlaiw6.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?...herockofgm2.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?i...herockofzp0.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3148/glblastnt3.jpg

You want to bring up PIS for Hal, and then show a scan of a shark hurting someone that withstood all that .
(Also, notice that in that last scan, Despero took a GL blast that was probably very similar to Quasarís without to much trouble. Besides, most of Quasarís attack was absorbed by bigbran since he specifically teleported close to EX AM.) And while Super Adaptoid may be the only one on our team thatís immune to illusions, the fact that he immediately relayed that info to Despero and EX AM means that they know the illusions are nothing to worry about. You keep forgetting that while your teams travel speed may be faster than ours, your teams reactionary speed is far lower. Quasar may have light speed movement capabilities, but to my knowledge heís never shown reflexes at that level. X-Man is the fastest you guys have in the way of reflexes because he supposedly moves and reacts at the speed of thought. However, Super Adaptoid thinks at the combined speed of TWO super computers(Ultron and himself) PLUS the speed of Despero(interrupted Flashís speed blitz, nuff said). So it would be child's play for Super Adaptoid to relay the info about the illusions right as they appeared. And since his reactions and thought speed is also quite a bit higher than the rest of our team, he relayed that info before they really had a chance to be surprised.



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Originally posted by Devil Lance
]Now on to Mangog vs SA
Mangog is not limited to close range attacks he also can fire enrgy blasts so we don't have to worry about SA absorbingMangog's tk armor or Quantam Armor.


Ok now correct me if Iím wrong here, but wasnít your exact plan for Mangog something like thisÖ

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
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Now since Dr. D is stunned for a while it will give Mangog the time to get a ton of hits in seeing how fast his blows can be

http://www.picsaway.com/view/thor_v...-71c6c48845.jpg

that barrage of blows pretty much puts Super Adaptoid down for the count given Dr. D's poor durability and Mangog's amazing strength.
After this Mangog goes to help one of his teamates.


What that means is that you pretty much had Mangog teleport in, and start swinging. You of course were unaware at the time that Mangogís Quantum and TK armor would actually make Super Adaptoid more powerful, but unfortunately thatís exactly what happened.


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Originally posted by Devil Lance
]So to sum evrything up
1. The illusins will distract their team enough that they won't be able to brace themselves for our opening attack.

Wrong, Super Adaptoid let everyone know as soon as you guys arrived.


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Originally posted by Devil Lance
]2. Despero has bhad his skin punctured and has bled for shark bites so our opening attack should mess him up very badly. leaving him easy pickings for X-man which Lucid will explain.

Wrong, bigbran absorbed most of it, and what was left would have no effect on someone who could withstand simultaneous shots from Supes and company, being hit with the Rock of Eternity, and a blast from a pissed off Green Lantern

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
]3. Mangog ha slong range enryg blasts so SA will not be absorbing any of his armor.

You never mentioned long range blast for him initially, you had him come in swinging. So his armor was absorbed before he even knew what was going on.

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
]4. Mangog's tp block wer eput on during prep so they won't straina nyone.


Once again, do you have a single instance of him actually being able to sustain a psi shield on another person without consciously sustaining it, or while he himself is involved in combat? Cause sustained telepathic effects strains just about everyone that Iím aware off.

So basically...
1. Despero and Super Adaptoid are fine after Quasar's initial attack. And are fully capable of taking the fight back to you.(Cause most of the energy was absorbed by bigbran or Super Adaptoid.)

2. The illusions are worthless.(Because Super Adaptoid relayed the info on them pretty much the moment they appeared.)

3. Mangog's armor is gone and his strength weakens with each shot he lands. While Super Adaptoid gets stronger all the time.(Because you had him come in swinging before you knew any better.)

4. X-Man's abilities are WAY to overtaxed to withstand an assault from Despero.(Because of the numerous sustained effects you have him trying to accomplish).


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I was just informed that three of my links showing Despero's durability aren't working, so here they are....

http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?...herockofgm2.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?i...herockofzp0.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?...erovsjlaiw6.jpg


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